The Aurora nerf, too punishing?

[biass]

i'd lower muzzle velocity for aurora if i wanted to nerf it a little,

I like this idea

I rather missed shots come about because the other player was "good" and dodged the shots rather then random chance

giving players a better ability to dodge the shots is a welcome nerf to aurora imo

also @keyser the local file wasnt there at first, people say they cannot watch it when they tried to grab the file from the server using the id, i added it at Phillip request

[PhilipJFry]

yeah he added the file after i pinged him
to be honest i don't see the issue in that game
lots of shots against the ground but that's nothing new with auroras when there is uneven terrain

[biass]

i think looking back at it that its more about how frustrating to use them in the moment because watching the replay it doesn't look that bad

but in-game i got so mad at the sheer amount of shots missed i decided to try doing all fervor until i got t2

this is why i think something else like an rof change or a muzzle velocity change is better suited to making the tanks not utterly cancerous to use but still working in the direction of "aurora nerf" that which i am ok with

and you might as well make it for when they're standing still as well, i don't want to have to try and halt units to keep them "good" especially when dodging shots is the only thing keeping them alive (medusa comes to mind)

[SpoCk0nd0pe]

and you might as well make it for when they're standing still as well, i don't want to have to try and halt units to keep them "good" especially when dodging shots is the only thing keeping them alive (medusa comes to mind)

Good point. I too think that keeping movement is desirable. It ups the dynamic of the game.

[IceDreamer]

I agree with how this thread is progressing. Keep up the good debate people

[JaggedAppliance]

To the question in the title, so far I don't think it's too punishing. It will ofc make players focus on all the shots their auroras missed since the patch

The idea of reducing muzzle velocity slightly instead of the current nerf seems more appealing to me the more I think about it. It rewards micro more and it is more intuitive and apparent to players without the need for reading patchnotes. I'll try it out for the next patch to see if it works as well as it sounds in theory.

[Lieutenant Lich]

inb4 they lower Aurora's muzzle velocity to the Ythotha death ball velocity and give it 800 damage per shot.

It would be interesting to see some more T2 land from aeon aside from the usual aurora+guncom to harb rush.

Spoiler: show

Does make one wonder though how to kill obsidians paired with mobile shields.

[FtXCommando]

inb4 they lower Aurora's muzzle velocity to the Ythotha death ball velocity and give it 800 damage per shot.

It would be interesting to see some more T2 land from aeon aside from the usual aurora+guncom to harb rush.

Spoiler: show

Does make one wonder though how to kill obsidians paired with mobile shields.

Obsidians and shields are best as late t2 units. Aeon meme blaze tank isn't even worth building to stop t1 tbh. With that and the fact you got to get t2 pgens to run obsidians and sheields in large numbers, you might as well as go for harbs which do what obsidians do while being faster, stronger, better ranged, and awesome against t1.

[biass]

I don't think that obsidian are too good early on, and with the blaze tank being mostly rubbish the only other solution is to make mobile shields for your auroras, which can cancel out a lot of their weaknesses

However i think this randomness might even nerf aurora vs t2 harder, t2 are a little slower on some accounts and that with their larger frame make it hard for t2 tanks to dodge aurora shots, if needed

Having the aurora straight up miss t2 tanks hurts hard especially if your harb rush goes wrong and you need to stall a tiny bit, even more frustrating in game, when you're doing everything "right" but you're kicking the bucket anyways due to random chances like the randomness

also is the randomness just horizontal or vertical as well? a lot of shots are landing just short of the (enemy) tanks and i want to know if im just imagining things

[IceDreamer]

Horizontal only. To prove, fire a mavor at the ground a long way away at +10, then use shift-f6 to edit the FR to say 10 times, build a second, and do it again. only the horizontal spread changes