balance rant, cybran OPness etc

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Re: balance rant, cybran OPness etc

Postby zeroAPM » 10 Jun 2016, 20:55

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I guess that's where you can use T2 arty or even (*gasp*) T2 bombers for that sweet AoE.
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Re: balance rant, cybran OPness etc

Postby Lieutenant Lich » 29 Jun 2016, 17:54

Tokyto wrote:Bricks lose horribly to Percivals, Aeons have OP harbs and nobody plays Sera so who cares about those. Also loyalist overrated imo, they aren't that good.

Nobody plays sera


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It's the broken balance
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Re: balance rant, cybran OPness etc

Postby Nepty » 02 Jul 2016, 01:01

Interesting thread. The really sad news is a member tried to warn the FAF community for 3 years about Cybran. I think his name was Supernova or something like that. No one listened, so here we are... I know cybran will never be nerfed, too many Cybran fanboys will make sure of that. So buff all the other factions is our only option. I have some good ideas I'll share later.

Cybran's tech 1 is too superior in my opinion. How I would balance them:

1)Lower mantis HP to 250, increase DPS slightly. Fast and deadly, but low HP. The hard counter would be Seraphim's bomber.
2)Lower jester's HP. Maybe lower its price or build speed. It has too much HP that's just a fact. 350 is okay.

No faction should force another faction to go tech 2 just to counter the tech 1. Yes UEF has to Pillar rush to stop cybran insane tech one spam, and Seraphim has to do something similar with their Tech 2 assault bot.

The cybran faction is OP in 1v1, it always was. Shame it took over 3 years for people to notice. Best tech one, best tech 2 gunship and fighter bomber, best TML, fastest experimental build speed. I could go on and on. I just want balance. Don't use the faction diversity excuse to keep cybran OP. Let's do what's best for FAF.
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Re: balance rant, cybran OPness etc

Postby biass » 02 Jul 2016, 02:48

Nepty wrote:No faction should force another faction to go tech 2 just to counter the tech 1.


aurora.

cybran are getting nerfed son, go join the balance team if you're so passionate and you can see for yourself

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also ayy lmao if ur hawkei i didnt notice
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Re: balance rant, cybran OPness etc

Postby Lieutenant Lich » 02 Jul 2016, 03:47

Nepty wrote:Interesting thread. The really sad news is a member tried to warn the FAF community for 3 years about Cybran. I think his name was Supernova or something like that. No one listened, so here we are... I know cybran will never be nerfed, too many Cybran fanboys will make sure of that. So buff all the other factions is our only option.


That... is a good thought. If other factions are buffed a bit, that might just fix the balance.
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Re: balance rant, cybran OPness etc

Postby briang » 02 Jul 2016, 16:05

Looks like we've got another cringe poster fellas!

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Re: balance rant, cybran OPness etc

Postby NapSpan » 02 Jul 2016, 20:31

biass wrote:
Nepty wrote:No faction should force another faction to go tech 2 just to counter the tech 1.


aurora.

cybran are getting nerfed son, go join the balance team if you're so passionate and you can see for yourself

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also ayy lmao if ur hawkei i didnt notice

But with Aurora is quite fun, 20 Auroras being reduced to ashes by 2 mongooses, with Cybrans is not funny at all.
We have "Continentals" so moving shit around must be important.
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Re: balance rant, cybran OPness etc

Postby nine2 » 21 Jul 2016, 13:05

briang wrote:Looks like we've got another cringe poster fellas!
FML



Haha omg I just found out you got permbanned from forums. It literally happened on my birthday too.

Not sure about cybran being op myself. Apparently everything aeon is op... Aurora too good so you have to go early t2, then obsidians apparently dominate, and t2 air, then harb rush. Doesn't apply to team games obviously.. I mean more 1v1 or 2v2... You know, real games.
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Re: balance rant, cybran OPness etc

Postby Isen » 26 Jul 2016, 16:47

wOowaaeeeeeeeo, long time not being around, cybran op now??? what happened, medusas killing t1 pds now? i have been reading a bit the forums but as i can´t talk about how the game is now i will just shut up, anyway i can't play yet (or at least i shouldn't, although i really want to... :( )
I think you shouldn't try to balance the game for teamgames since on teamgames teams can mix factions, and also shouldn't balance the game for making it eassier to newcomers but if there is some imbalance on top players matches ok go ahead and try to balance it up.
I love Cybran i played it because they were weaker than other factions, so if you nerf them it is ok for me, i will still love them.

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Re: balance rant, cybran OPness etc

Postby NapSpan » 26 Jul 2016, 19:02

Isen wrote:wOowaaeeeeeeeo, long time not being around, cybran op now??? what happened, medusas killing t1 pds now? i have been reading a bit the forums but as i can´t talk about how the game is now i will just shut up, anyway i can't play yet (or at least i shouldn't, although i really want to... :( )
I think you shouldn't try to balance the game for teamgames since on teamgames teams can mix factions, and also shouldn't balance the game for making it eassier to newcomers but if there is some imbalance on top players matches ok go ahead and try to balance it up.
I love Cybran i played it because they were weaker than other factions, so if you nerf them it is ok for me, i will still love them.

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Well, now Cybrans are OP as hell, Medusas will paralize your army, Corsairs would blow up your ACU ass and if that doesnt work, add some fire beetles, T3 stage? some loya rush, enemy handle it? early monkeylord, brick spam, telemazer, megalith etc...
We have "Continentals" so moving shit around must be important.
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