Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

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Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

Postby FunkOff » 14 May 2015, 03:07

We already did it for ASFs and ships. Now just do it for everything else.

(I'm tired of losing games because I dont wanna hug other ACUs over reclaim on maps.)
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Re: Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

Postby TheKoopa » 14 May 2015, 03:23

That has been done to ASF because of the retarded numbers of them in late game and to ships because they are so expensive.

It's not the reclaim value's fault, it's the map's fault.
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Re: Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

Postby theeggroll » 14 May 2015, 05:16

Moved to suggestions
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Re: Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

Postby Reaper Zwei » 14 May 2015, 07:25

FunkOff wrote:We already did it for ASFs and ships. Now just do it for everything else.

(I'm tired of losing games because I dont wanna hug other ACUs over reclaim on maps.)


Out of curiosity when did we lower the reclaim value of asf's and ships? long time ago? never knew that it had been done. though when testing the reclaim value of ships and asf's it's 40%(not sure if when you say we already did it if you meant going to 20% or just that we lowered it).
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Re: Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

Postby Deering » 14 May 2015, 07:44

Before faf there was no reclaim in water, so no reclaim for ships. Any reclaim in water (mostly ships) is 50% of the normal reclaim amount (81%). ASFS are also 50% of the normal amount because it was just another reason to stack asf and never have an airfight. Neither person wants to drop 50k mass near an opponent. This stacks with the water amount so ASF in water are 20%

Everything else is at the quite high 81%. I can understand wanting to make it smaller. If two armies collide the reclaim field can build 3/4 of the combined armies. That is a lot.
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Re: Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

Postby Reaper Zwei » 14 May 2015, 08:03

Ah that's right, I forgot ship reclaim wasn't in the base game. So it was added in at what it is now? (~40%)

On the subject at hand if you would want to lower it I wouldn't go as low as 20%(I would personally keep it the same but if enough people want it to be lowered then say 50% could be reasonable)
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Re: Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

Postby JaggedAppliance » 14 May 2015, 08:06

A lower reclaim percentage could lead to more dynamic games. A failed attack has a very high penalty right now.
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Re: Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

Postby ax0lotl » 14 May 2015, 11:16

JaggedAppliance wrote:A failed attack has a very high penalty right now.

The advantage is that it supports comebacks, which is a good thing.

I also don't like it that when an opponent has shielded T3/T4 arti and you manage to kill it (by let's say sacrificing 20 strat bombers), it doesn't hurt them that much, they can just rebuild from the reclaim (if they have enough build power).

I would support lowering reclaim value. Maybe half the land reclaim value, make it the same as in water?

It would change maps with starting wreck reclaim. Might be good to get rid of some meta though. :)
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Re: Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

Postby speed2 » 14 May 2015, 11:20

If your opponent has T3/T4 Arty and you dont, there is something else wrong and its not reclaim value :D
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Re: Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

Postby Ithilis_Quo » 14 May 2015, 12:30

different reclaim valua on ASF is pretty stupid.. no reason for that. yes none want put 40K reclaim on enemy base, but you do total same with land units. then asf have only more dominance whole map
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