Can we lower reclaim value to 20 percent

[Turkey]

I have a mod in the vault that halves reclaim from wrecks.

[ZLO_RD]

Logic behind halfing ASF wreck mass is that people will more often engage and fight air even on enemy half of map/ocean

So even if people will still spam asf like crazy they can go and loose them faster, and not keep insane asf clouds trought whole game...
Can't really say if this logic works in game...

[E8400-CV]

Before faf there was no reclaim in water, so no reclaim for ships. Any reclaim in water (mostly ships) is 50% of the normal reclaim amount (81%). ASFS are also 50% of the normal amount because it was just another reason to stack asf and never have an airfight. Neither person wants to drop 50k mass near an opponent. This stacks with the water amount so ASF in water are 20%

Everything else is at the quite high 81%. I can understand wanting to make it smaller. If two armies collide the reclaim field can build 3/4 of the combined armies. That is a lot.

Wreckage can take damage too and have reduced reclaim value.

[Aulex]

Before faf there was no reclaim in water, so no reclaim for ships. Any reclaim in water (mostly ships) is 50% of the normal reclaim amount (81%). ASFS are also 50% of the normal amount because it was just another reason to stack asf and never have an airfight. Neither person wants to drop 50k mass near an opponent. This stacks with the water amount so ASF in water are 20%

Everything else is at the quite high 81%. I can understand wanting to make it smaller. If two armies collide the reclaim field can build 3/4 of the combined armies. That is a lot.

Wreckage can take damage too and have reduced reclaim value.

Only be weapons with aoe

[Sheeo]

Before faf there was no reclaim in water, so no reclaim for ships. Any reclaim in water (mostly ships) is 50% of the normal reclaim amount (81%). ASFS are also 50% of the normal amount because it was just another reason to stack asf and never have an airfight. Neither person wants to drop 50k mass near an opponent. This stacks with the water amount so ASF in water are 20%

Everything else is at the quite high 81%. I can understand wanting to make it smaller. If two armies collide the reclaim field can build 3/4 of the combined armies. That is a lot.

Wreckage can take damage too and have reduced reclaim value.

Only be weapons with aoe

Actually, there's a bug with the hitboxes of wrecks: Most of them are offset vertically about -50%. Since most weapons don't collide with wrecks it's not really a problem though, but there are a few projectiles that do--nukes for one.

[Col_Walter_Kurtz]

Pretty radical, but I must admit, the idea of lowering the reclaim value sounds appealing. Everyone just scrambles for every piece of debris like a bunch of scavengers now. It's almost funny if it wouldn't promote turtling so much.

[da_monstr]

Pretty radical, but I must admit, the idea of lowering the reclaim value sounds appealing. Everyone just scrambles for every piece of debris like a bunch of scavengers now. It's almost funny if it wouldn't promote turtling so much.

That might be true, but then we would lose one of the distinctive concepts of Supcom: when attacking, you better do enough damage or it's gonna bite you in the a**. If you were to reduce reclaim to 20%, that would mean dumbly rushing a ML to enemy base and only destroying, for example, 1 T3 power gen would be worth it.
There are enough options to wrecking turtlers as it is.

[ZLO_RD]

We already did it for ASFs and ships. Now just do it for everything else.

(I'm tired of losing games because I dont wanna hug other ACUs over reclaim on maps.)

Interesting... I thought main argument against big reclaim value is that it forses people to play more defencive and make boring turtle stuff. But you reminded me that inicial reclaim on maps forses people to drasticly change their build orders and be agressive, or change whole game plan cause of new reclaim fields appearing on battlefield.
Not only reclaim gives you something to fight for, but also gives bigger variaty for build orders, witch is super fun thing about supcom.
Also reclaim is unique feature of supcom

[IceDreamer]

20% is too far. It's 81% now and I think it's too high. 60% anyone?

[zeroAPM]

Also reclaim is unique feature of supcom

WRONG!
Total Annihilation did it first.