Patch 3703 Beta

[NapSpan]

in short.
Dont nerf nukes so much. nukes must be harder to assist\speed up by 15% only.
Prices for arty should be higher - t3\t4.

Prices of Arties are already high enough, you don't see them outside ecoing games that often.

[Morax]

Nukes would be fine as-is if it was not for the "jam-packed" start position culture of team game maps.

They have a fairly limited range, but since everyone wants to play games where bases are so close to each other, it's a weapon that can end a game with ease. Because of this, it's driven balance to adjust it.

I don't think the nuke should be a "game-ender" but more of a tactical choice to eliminate critical holds.

[FtXCommando]

Actually the closer the spawn positions the worse nukes are. They benefit from spread out bases because now it takes 4 SMDs to stop the investment of 1 SML. It’s the same principle as why TMLs are so absurdly strong in high mex 2v2s or 3v3s.

[Morax]

That's a good point, actually.

I kind of feel like it would be best to invest less in bases that are "out there," but that's like saying one or two players are susceptible from the start.

My only rebuttal to that is if a team does not invest in an smd, it's gg. This happens so frequently I got hooked on thinking this way.

Good point, commando.

[ACCURACY]

Great, another 100% useless patch to f*** up the game more. Really increases my motivation to play!

[Farmsletje]

Thank's for your input! We will discuss it soon

[Zerzetzung1]

How about a little buff to Atlantis? Its super weak and useless. I would like to use it since its experimental and supposed to be a prime ship of the fleet. Scathis gets a buff, so why not Atlantis too? I would like to see more of Atlantis in the battle so i could get more reclaim.

Personally I welcome nerfs for nuke, tac and topedo bombers. Very good.

Atlantis was somewhat recently nerfed, before that you could do drive-by ghetto shooting with it: http://recordit.co/jcGJ7fkCHX

Yep, thats useful. Now its not. Somekind on buff would be welcome.

[advena]

Point of view of new player.

Mongoose:
Looks like a big buff. +20%(or more?) dps to one of weapons and a lot of accuracity. Is it really that bad ATM?

T2 shilelds.
Huge mass cost increase. I understand that it have cost of PGens in it.
So nums: ^_^
Aeon: 35 = 7% of T2 PGen = 84 mass vs 76 (-8)
UEF: 50 = 10% of T2 Pgen = 120 mass vs 100 (-20)
Ser: 150 = 30% of T2 Pgen = 360 mass vs 360 (0)
or 6% of T3 Pgen = 194 vs 360 (+166)

Aeon as before
UEF boost
Serafim nerf

Also: what overspill means?

Amphibious torpedos:
Fatboy? Monkeylord?

Engineers:
Better build range increase IMO. Gives some divercity.
T1 fast
T3 slow and far
T2 in middle

Sidenote:
Buildrange increase from ACU T2/T3 upgrade?


Scathis:
Another T4 Arty gameender? We have 2 (3 with yolona oss)
Boooooooooring

Suggestion:
Cost as old
Range&HP as old
Burst damage as new
Speed 2.5

Anyway make mussle count divide by 6 ^_^

Sidenote:
Consider adding faction diversity to T3 mobile artillery. Like you did to MMLs
(just ideas)
Cybran fire 3 mussles in a row
Serafim can hower
Aeon don't deploy (like now)

Air:
20%+ mass cost increases detected

T2 Arty:
Makes sense. Was strange before.

T2 shields:
~2 times nerf? 0_o

T3 shield:
Buff Aeon one if you going this way (It loses faction diversity. 17000 is too close to 18000)

[Platinumizer]

Boooooooooring

exactly why not try balance to balance more fun instead of actual balance

[Cuddles]

Boooooooooring

exactly why not try balance to balance more fun instead of actual balance

like hover bombers?