T3 arties - noob heaven, need rebalance

[Farmsletje]

Dear community.

I only play finn's revenge and i've noticed a certain trend. Every unit that is t3 or above NEVER gets build there. The game will already be over because t1 and t2 are too strong not to build. Therefore i have a few suggestions to make the balance a little better.
- Make t3 hq's cost 33% of their current mass so t3 units get used more often.
- Make t4's cost around 10k mass. They're literally unbuildable right now.
- Game enders like the para/yolo/mavor never get build because they're way too expensive. Please decrease their cost to around 20k mass.

Thanks

[uzurpator]

Morax - people play what games are there. I have a choice of : Pass/Gap/DGap/Crater or "Friendly Community over 9000 by Foley", endless Setons, VooDoo tournaments and survivals.

Farms - if Finn;s was 80% of games of FAF then it would be an issue that should be addressed.

[Franck83]

Just create a game without tech 3 artillery on.

Or why not making a mod with a custom Gap series balance ?

[uzurpator]

Because people use Crater and Gap games to farm rating. That is why.

[Franck83]

Because people use Crater and Gap games to farm rating. That is why.

We should find a way to allow specific ratings linked to mods.

Why not a BlackOps league & Rating for example ?

[uzurpator]

Because rating is a peepee measuring tool that will lock you out of good deal of games. So either nobody is going to farm black-ops or the community would split. People will always go for the highest benefit/cost and that is why you farm rating on Crater, and t lesser extent, Gap, or build T3 arty to win there.

[Franck83]

Maybe a stupid question, but why not excluding maps with bad gameplay from granting rating?

[uzurpator]

Because people love Setons and you can always upload Le Thermo 2001 which is image flipped version and gain rating before it is moderated out.

The art of balancing a game is to ensure that a good gameplay emerges from the game mechanics. As it stands now this game offers options to sit and build instead of fighting.

[FtXCommando]

Thermo and rushmemore are already maps that are unrated. Think mapping team is planning to do a system where maps need to be reviewed before becoming public in the vault. Problem with unrating maps for “shit gameplay” is deciding why exactly a map is “shit gameplay.”

Dual Gap is no diff than most 6v6 maps; they’re all shit for developing a healthy game balance and the game shouldn’t be balanced around these games. Dual Gap can be a nice map for a 2v2 or a 3v3, so I don’t get the point in unrating it.

[uzurpator]

Unrating maps for shit gameplay also has this side effect of having a swath of players never progressing, rating wise. Thermo is virtually never played with air so unrating it is irrelevant anyways.