Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

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Re: Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

Postby Apofenas » 10 Feb 2018, 05:14

Farmsletje wrote:
Farmsletje wrote:total lazer cost is bout 35k mass ... 38k mass just to defend 4 areas on the map against tele. Then you haven't defended your smd vs tele yet, our your air grid which needs more t2 pd.

My point was that you don't even need to risk your life to get even on the masscost.

Comparing the strenght of cybran acu tele and tele sacu's. Seems legit.


The teleport defence will appear no matter if you have tele mazer or not. It absolutly doesn't matter if cybran is even in game or not.

You restrict mazer upgrade from game, or better restrict cybran. Teleport defences will suddenly disappear from game?

Players will build it any way to defend from tele SCUs. And that even won't prevent a bunch of suicidal tele SCUs to go for some game ender or a bunch of SMDs all over the place and other protected things where you wouldn't send your only cybran tele-mazer at all.


Farmsletje wrote:Cybran hater this, cybran hater that. Just because i think one cybran ability is OP? Nice assumption mate.

Wasn't mainly refering to you. But this is lame shit gay cancer mechanic one of their questionable strenght for their crucial weakness with no rambo ACU at t2 stage.
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Re: Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

Postby Wesmania » 10 Feb 2018, 13:05

FtXCommando wrote:This is the part where I call what you're saying trolling, right? Kappa.

Farmsletje wrote:I wonder out of touch with reality you need to be to think that everybody that doesn't agree with your opinion is trolling.


I was referring specifically to my suggestion to make teleporting take longer depending on teleport distance, nothing else. Getting worked up so much over cybran tele ACU being so very OP, then casually blowing off suggestions how to fix it without making it useless counts as trolling in my book.

Farms, likewise - stop assuming that everyone who doesn't agree with you is delusional.
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Re: Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

Postby FtXCommando » 10 Feb 2018, 21:15

Damn, it's almost like I didn't blow off any suggestions about teleport. In fact, all I did was address the fact that teleport is the problem not mazor.
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Re: Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

Postby Wesmania » 10 Feb 2018, 21:20

FtXCommando wrote:Damn, it's almost like I didn't blow off any suggestions about teleport. In fact, all I did was address the fact that teleport is the problem not mazor.

Darnit, should've looked at actual names before commenting. Sorry for bundling you up with the other guys.
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Re: Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

Postby ZeRenCZ » 11 Feb 2018, 10:07

Farmsletje
Thank you for your glorious 1300 balance visions. Balance team will take a look at it


well, I suggest rename "Balance Discussion" to "Balance Discussion for PROs only" , so us 1300k players dont have to waste our time suggesting something, when only Pro opinion matters obviously, or maybe just lock it for low rated, when you dont care about their opinion ( maybe I would not be so hated if I would also agree with all Cyb nerfs? :idea: )

ah even when I am only 1300 doesnt mean I am not right, but FAF logic : PRO=alway right
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Re: Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

Postby biass » 11 Feb 2018, 13:52

ZeRenCZ wrote:
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Thank you for your glorious 1300 balance visions. Balance team will take a look at it


well, I suggest rename "Balance Discussion" to "Balance Discussion for PROs only" , so us 1300k players dont have to waste our time suggesting something, when only Pro opinion matters obviously, or maybe just lock it for low rated, when you dont care about their opinion ( maybe I would not be so hated if I would also agree with all Cyb nerfs? :idea: )

ah even when I am only 1300 doesnt mean I am not right, but FAF logic : PRO=alway right


There's a difference between being some 1300 and having a well formed opinion and being a 1300 and telling people who are 2k rated how to play.

Also maybe if you hid the bias a little but im not sure you're aware of how obvious it is :/

I'm sure you can propose a cyb buff if you brought out some nice evidence and discussion (replays!) instead of saying all these ideas like A: they're fact without evidence and B: like the idea was brought upon you from the heavens, try it out sometime.
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Re: Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

Postby Turinturambar » 11 Feb 2018, 14:07

ZeRenCZ wrote:but Cybran is nefed into oblivion, because some UEF cry babies

considdering taht the patch heavily nerfs rambo acus (which mainly affects non cybran) and cybran T2 is fairly strong (with medusas and hoplites, stealth), when properly used! I dont see how came to this opponion.
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Re: Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

Postby keyser » 11 Feb 2018, 15:11

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Re: Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

Postby ____ » 11 Feb 2018, 15:36

JoonasTo wrote:
DISRUPTOR 9 0,75 613ish(with new rate of fire)




I am pretty sure your calculation is wrong.

You assumed the damage of the Disruptor was not changed, but in fact, it actually was changed. It is now 3200 instead of 4600. You calculated 4600/7.5=613.3, it should be 3200/7.5= 426.67

This change is absolutely mind boggling to me.
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Re: Balance patch 3696 Feedback Thread

Postby PhilipJFry » 11 Feb 2018, 16:01

the increased rate of fire gives shields less time to regenerate hp (the regen varies from shield to shield eg a uef t3 shield has 131 hp/s regen)

that's why i decided to lower the damage in combination with the increased rate of fire
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