Any ideas for t3 land yet?

[Morax]

It's been an absolutely great length of time since this has been mentioned...

Jagged and other balance folks, what are the plans for this? I still see no light at the end of the tunnel where t2 is relevant again and harb/loyal rush is not as common.

[Yakmann]

I would be interested in this as well. Especially after seeing a few replays with a T3 beta patch a few weeks back. So it seems to be worked on, but there's just no real information about it.

[JaggedAppliance]

We plan to release one balance patch before the t3 rebalance patches. Details to follow once we get the next patch into beta.

[Mel_Gibson]

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[Morax]

We plan to release one balance patch before the t3 rebalance patches. Details to follow once we get the next patch into beta.

Why even bother releasing a beta at this point? Every patch comes with issues and you mine as well just bravely release it into the wild, let the bugs get reported, fix them.

As to Mel_Gibson's screenshot, it is a little concerning about dedication considering it has taken this long.

[keyser]

there is some tester reporting some bugs in beta; releasing fully broken patch would just increase the rage of people on faf, i'm not sure this is what we want to do. (at least we limit a little bit the number of bugs with beta) + have some report of people and change balance if necessary (but it's unlikely since only few people play beta)

[Morax]

It's not bad if people are actually reporting bugs, but as it's shown above it has been 4 years...

It's really a question of dedication as I have sincere doubts the "pledge" is being honored by said councillor.

[JaggedAppliance]

It's really a question of dedication as I have sincere doubts the "pledge" is being honored by said councillor.

You ought to give your post some substance if you want to question my dedication.

[Morax]

Well, I agree that it's a bit bind; however, could you please enlighten very myself and to others as to exactly how how much time you think is reasonable to get this addressed?

I won't accept "we are complainers or impatient" as people like Farmsletje are writing very detailed posts on balance ideas.

Your substance is this: write to us your thought process instead of showing up every once in awhile to give release updates, please.

For years I have barely been able to get a reply other than "it's complicated" from Zock and yourself in why t3 is so tough.

What kind of testing are you doing? Surely to must be playing games. I did some beta tests in sandbox with Nexus and Turin to your request, only to find it was done in highly ideal situations.

Is that still your method?

I think there are people far more motivated to work balance and try new ideas faster than you.

[JaggedAppliance]

Recently there has been little work on t3 land, once the next patch is done it will have my full attention. At that point I will write a detailed outline of what is proposed based on work and testing already completed and take in ideas from everyone who is willing to give them because this change will have a large impact on the game. The difficulty with changing anything in this game is that everything in the system is interlinked. So with such a large change as rebalancing many units will have a certain predictable direction, the exact consequences cannot be foreseen without huge testing. I appreciate that the t3 land rebalance is almost an ancient prophecy at this stage but it's a lot of work and it is daunting to make such a change to this great game.

I think there are people far more motivated to work balance and try new ideas faster than you.

I'm just gonna call bollocks on this one. No one has contacted me wanting to get involved with balance in months. If anyone would like to contact me, please do. I would love more help.