Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

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Re: Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

Postby Farmsletje » 21 Jun 2017, 20:26

Okay. End of discussion then.
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Re: Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

Postby FtXCommando » 21 Jun 2017, 20:27

Ars Nova wrote:
FtXCommando wrote:Also, by the way, the onus is on you to prove why this change needs to happen.


Prove I asked for a change. I didn't.


Ars Nova wrote:Cybran do need an amphibious attack option, at least as far as you can say a faction needs amphibious attackers.
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Re: Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

Postby Ars Nova » 21 Jun 2017, 20:37

FtXCommando wrote:
Ars Nova wrote:
FtXCommando wrote:Also, by the way, the onus is on you to prove why this change needs to happen.


Prove I asked for a change. I didn't.


Ars Nova wrote:Cybran do need an amphibious attack option, at least as far as you can say a faction needs amphibious attackers.


And they do, as far as you can say any faction needs amphibious attackers. Those situations don't come up on every map. Any time you can say "well the Cybran can just build navy", the same applies to the factions that have hover units. The issue for Cybran is that they lack a strategic option. Building a navy doesn't actually fulfill the strategic option of an amphibious unit, it negates its necessity by providing a completely water-borne force.

There's a hole here. Nothing in the Cybran arsenal short of a Megalith can fill it. It would be nice if the hole wasn't there, and because there's a hole it's actually a thing they need. It can be worked around by always building a navy, and without introducing new units or making the Wagner hover, the hole will never be filled because of practical reasons involving how the Wagner works. The hole is also not there because "Cybran OP" - this paradigm has been around for a long time and that's a misleading and stupid argument. Shame on some of you for putting it out there as a reason.

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Re: Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

Postby biass » 21 Jun 2017, 20:46

Ars Nova wrote:Prove I asked for a change. I didn't.


Ars Nova wrote:And they do, as far as you can say any faction needs amphibious attackers. Those situations don't come up on every map. Any time you can say "well the Cybran can just build navy", the same applies to the factions that have hover units. The issue for Cybran is that they lack a strategic option. Building a navy doesn't actually fulfill the strategic option of an amphibious unit, it negates its necessity by providing a completely water-borne force.

There's a hole here. Nothing in the Cybran arsenal short of a Megalith can fill it. It would be nice if the hole wasn't there, and because there's a hole it's actually a thing they need. It can be worked around by always building a navy, and without introducing new units or making the Wagner hover, the hole will never be filled because of practical reasons involving how the Wagner works. The hole is also not there because "Cybran OP" - this paradigm has been around for a long time and that's a misleading and stupid argument. Shame on some of you for putting it out there as a reason.

Does that make sense to you?


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Re: Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

Postby Endranii » 21 Jun 2017, 21:07

Make mantis swim.

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Re: Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

Postby speed2 » 21 Jun 2017, 21:20

Coming soon™ in Post August 2016 Balance speed2Edit V1

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Re: Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

Postby Morax » 21 Jun 2017, 21:34

speed2 wrote:Coming soon™ in Post August 2016 Balance speed2Edit V1



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Re: Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

Postby Farmsletje » 21 Jun 2017, 21:41

Next evolution is to make them fly.
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Re: Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

Postby speed2 » 21 Jun 2017, 21:42

I might need to rename it to Gerridae tho
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Re: Cybran desperately needs something for floaty crap

Postby Nepty » 21 Jun 2017, 21:58

Endranii wrote:Make mantis swim.

EOT


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