The Aurora nerf, too punishing? Topic is solved

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Re: The Aurora nerf, too punishing?

Postby Exotic_Retard » 08 Jun 2017, 20:28

IceDreamer wrote:Horizontal only. To prove, fire a mavor at the ground a long way away at +10, then use shift-f6 to edit the FR to say 10 times, build a second, and do it again. only the horizontal spread changes



ok just pointing out this is nonsense ^^

heres a picture of 5 mantis with a rof of 10 firing clearly with vertical spread:
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and icecreamers own example, the mavor projectile firing backwards there. enjoy
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good thing at least the balance terrorists know how their balance works xD
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Re: The Aurora nerf, too punishing?

Postby IceDreamer » 08 Jun 2017, 21:46

That's interesting. It's definitely as I describe for Mavor, to get longitudinal spread you have to adjust MuzzleVelocityRandom. I worked on this extensively

I presume that the rules must be different for the different weapon arcs. Apparently NONE it's in all directions, HIGH it's only across, and LOW... Someone want to test? :p

EDIT: Or not. I'm delusional apparently. I definitely remember getting Mavor to fire a clean horizontal arc of shots with no longitudinal spread :/
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Re: The Aurora nerf, too punishing?

Postby Morax » 10 Jun 2017, 19:00

Damn, icedreamer. You best be getting your work on or EQ is going to be official balance after seeing this and reading Exotic's find on the issue with the layer level bp to determine a unit is underwater : D
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Re: The Aurora nerf, too punishing?

Postby IceDreamer » 10 Jun 2017, 19:10

He's good :D
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Re: The Aurora nerf, too punishing?  Topic is solved

Postby Exotic_Retard » 10 Jun 2017, 20:10

screenshotted for future reference : D : D : D : D

also implying eq isnt going to be official balance no matter what you do
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Re: The Aurora nerf, too punishing?

Postby Masyaka » 09 Jul 2017, 18:22

Better just lower aurora's DPS and make it fire like a machinegun to prevent quick kills and make kiting less op.

Allowing 15 stationary auroras to rape 30 strikers is too much incompetitive.
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Re: The Aurora nerf, too punishing?

Postby Lieutenant Lich » 09 Jul 2017, 19:24

Masyaka wrote:Better just lower aurora's DPS and make it fire like a machinegun to prevent quick kills and make kiting less op.

Allowing 15 stationary auroras to rape 30 strikers is too much incompetitive.

1) stationary auroras = dead auroras
2) Aeon machine gun? Doesn't Blaze have that already?
3) DPS means damage per second, if we lower Auroras DPS, it will start losing every fight
4) Your suggestion makes Aurora more like a slow and low HP Mantis. As much as I hate dislike aeon... nerfing them to shit like UEF was is not a good idea.

5) It was probably a mistake to write a serious reply to a well known troll but oh well...
Don't complain about that which you aren't willing to change.

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Re: The Aurora nerf, too punishing?

Postby Masyaka » 10 Jul 2017, 10:52

Lich King wrote:
Masyaka wrote:Better just lower aurora's DPS and make it fire like a machinegun to prevent quick kills and make kiting less op.

Allowing 15 stationary auroras to rape 30 strikers is too much incompetitive.

1) stationary auroras = dead auroras
2) Aeon machine gun? Doesn't Blaze have that already?
3) DPS means damage per second, if we lower Auroras DPS, it will start losing every fight
4) Your suggestion makes Aurora more like a slow and low HP Mantis. As much as I hate dislike aeon... nerfing them to shit like UEF was is not a good idea.

5) It was probably a mistake to write a serious reply to a well known troll but oh well...


Test yourself in sandbox. 15 auroras moved with attack-move correctly migh defeat 20 or 25 strikers (or Heaven is a hacker)
Lets not take down the DPS then.


If you are sure im trolling its probably because i stopped learning game some months ago and forgot much things probably.
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Re: The Aurora nerf, too punishing?

Postby biass » 10 Jul 2017, 11:07

Masyaka wrote:
Test yourself in sandbox. 15 auroras moved with attack-move correctly migh defeat 20 or 25 strikers (or Heaven is a hacker)
Lets not take down the DPS then.


Enemy tanks are also capable of moving fyi
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Re: The Aurora nerf, too punishing?

Postby Lieutenant Lich » 12 Jul 2017, 04:26

Masyaka wrote:If you are sure im trolling its probably because i stopped learning game some months ago and forgot much things probably.

Then why the hell are you making balance proposals when you don't even know the current balance?!
Don't complain about that which you aren't willing to change.

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