Megalith bp of t2 factory

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Megalith bp of t2 factory

Postby Evildrew » 06 Jun 2017, 16:41

Look at the mega take an inverted dump on the battlefield;)

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Re: Megalith bp of t2 factory

Postby Myxir » 06 Jun 2017, 17:15

the bp of this unit does not matter (except for reclaim purposes) if the egg build time is adjusted accordingly - afaik that was the intention of the change
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Re: Megalith bp of t2 factory

Postby JaggedAppliance » 06 Jun 2017, 17:28

http://content.faforever.com/patchnotes ... cellaneous

Washy is correct but the egg build time was not reduced by the full amount required to allow the mega to complete the eggs at the same rate as before. This is because eggs with very low build time would be abusable.
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Re: Megalith bp of t2 factory

Postby Evildrew » 06 Jun 2017, 18:20

My math tells me that BP /4 (180-->45) and buildtime /2 (50%) = 2x longer to build units from it...
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Re: Megalith bp of t2 factory

Postby Paradoxon » 06 Jun 2017, 18:42

Now i am interested what about low egg build time is abusable.
Starting eggs and finishing them with engies? Building panic flak?
I can't think of an obvious problem...
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Re: Megalith bp of t2 factory

Postby Myxir » 06 Jun 2017, 18:43

that is indeed a bad change, but your topic title "Megalith bp of t2 factory" is misleading from the actual problem then

Paradoxon wrote:Now i am interested what about low egg build time is abusable.
Starting eggs and finishing them with engies? Building panic flak?
I can't think of an obvious problem...


i could imagine auto assisting hives spamming bricks or something
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Re: Megalith bp of t2 factory

Postby IceDreamer » 06 Jun 2017, 19:15

Hives/T3 Eng/SCU

We're talking complete flash-build of bricks and flak. It's pretty busted TBH :/ 2x rate isn't bad.

I pointed this out to Jagged when I was making the code changelog and he was well aware. I also said that if this went ahead (It did) it would be a good idea to consider a mobile-units-who-can-build-stuff global "Bonus feature" to make using the factory feature a little special, and gave him some ideas. Hopefully we'll see a 'replacement' for the old much faster egg build at some point.
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Re: Megalith bp of t2 factory

Postby Wesmania » 06 Jun 2017, 19:36

I understand that the root problem here is that buildpower and reclaim speed are not separate values. Is there a way to decouple them in the code?
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Re: Megalith bp of t2 factory

Postby IceDreamer » 06 Jun 2017, 20:04

Nope. Seriously though, the game will probably end up better in the long run with longer reclaim times and the mobile factories being "Special" in a way other than their mobility. A true choice and reason to use them.
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