Sera sacus r too op

[Masyaka]

Lets do math

GC = 30K mass, 100k HP, 2,5k DPS
3 sera OC sacus = 30k mass, 150k HP, 9k DPS

Spider = 20k mass, 45k HP, 4k dps
2 sera OC sacus = 20k mass, 100k HP, 6k DPS.

Amazing, yeah?
Seems imbalanced. GC was about to be the best exp. Plus, they can OC com.

Or its sera feature?

[PhilipJFry]

where did you get those values from?
also no math was done here just listing some stuff and then nothing

[Masyaka]

where did you get those values from?
also no math was done here just listing some stuff and then nothing

1 sera sacu with oc, shield is 10k mass.
It has: 50k total hp with shield and 3k DPS OC + cannon. (in bug numbers they will nuke exps)


If comapre to masscost of exps for same dps and HP sacu will always win.



They become unkillable when get vet.

[PhilipJFry]

nvm i forget that people think that rambo sacus are good when sera
get the advanced combat upgrade for additional range
also you can't really compare t4 units and OC sacus in terms of DPS since buildings/ACUS have damage reduction against OC

edit: sure feel free to post some replays where sera rambo sacus dominate the battlefield should be easy when they are so op

[Masyaka]

nvm i forget that people think that rambo sacus are good when sera
get the advanced combat upgrade for additional range
also you can't really compare t4 units and OC sacus in terms of DPS since buildings/ACUS have damage reduction against OC

I dont use them to break def.


I compare cuz they can be used in def or attack in order to take out all enemy exps for low mass cost. When enemy has 2 GCs i have 6 SACUs. After a fight, i have all my 6 sacus alive.


If not count too precisely, its a spider for just 10k mass. New cheapest exp.

[PhilipJFry]

sure then feel free to abuse this imbalance and gain rating

you know why people make spiderbots? cause it is fast, has lots of dps, stealth low build time, a fancy laser and it is very good at killing acus
compare that to sera rambo sacus which have less range than a regular gun com and will die to a few OCs and can't deal that of dmg to an ACU due to the armor

so please don't compare apples with pears

[PhilipJFry]

0 micro auto-oc (gun acu has more range so kiting would be viable too)

cost of the rambo 10k mass and lots of e
cost of the gun upgrade 800 mass

[keyser]

T1 gun com > sera scu > ML
so T1 gun com win vs ML ? :O

[rtc]

Lets do math

GC = 30K mass, 100k HP, 2,5k DPS
3 sera OC sacus = 30k mass, 150k HP, 9k DPS

Spider = 20k mass, 45k HP, 4k dps
2 sera OC sacus = 20k mass, 100k HP, 6k DPS.

Amazing, yeah?
Seems imbalanced. GC was about to be the best exp. Plus, they can OC com.

Or its sera feature?

comparing raw mass/dps/hp numbers doesnt give you the whole picture.

maybe you're right and sera sacus beat spider and gc mass for mass in a sandbox fight - but GC and spider have a lot more attack range with their lasers than the sacu has with its overcharge.
they also move around the map faster.
and they deal full damage against commanders.
also spider has stealth and some anti air, and gc has tractor claws.
and they both can passively deal damage to things by walking over them, and they dont require a quantum gate to build.

all this stuff has to be considered when you compare units

[Lieutenant Lich]

Besides, you need a shitload of equipment to spam OC SCUs, which already makes them bad for rushing. Also, these, as you say, "OP" SCUs are all Seraphim have vs. other factions' direct fire experimentals.