Loyalist stunning acus

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Loyalist stunning acus

Postby JaggedAppliance » 10 Nov 2015, 21:19

I don't think loyalists should be able to stun acus. It's already very powerful vs T4, acu stun is too much i feel.
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Re: Loyalist stunning acus

Postby Petricpwnz » 10 Nov 2015, 21:28

JaggedAppliance wrote:I don't think loyalists should be able to stun acus. It's already very powerful vs T4, acu stun is too much i feel.


Yeah ACU stun and exp stun are both OP as hell.
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Re: Loyalist stunning acus

Postby Ithilis_Quo » 10 Nov 2015, 21:30

JaggedAppliance wrote:I don't think loyalists should be able to stun acus. It's already very powerful vs T4, acu stun is too much i feel.


I agree, and thx for tip, will remove it on next Equilibrium patch
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Re: Loyalist stunning acus

Postby speed2 » 10 Nov 2015, 21:33

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Re: Loyalist stunning acus

Postby keyser » 10 Nov 2015, 22:37

what's the point of keeping emp of loya if you want to remove it effect against T4/ACU/SCU ?
i would be interested to see an effective use of emp in T3 fight. (already tried to drop loya on perceval, but the effectiveness is really low for the amount of risk/micro required)

yes it's really strong against T4 (i already won with 6 loya and 1 ML against a mega). And it's a super usefull tool to kill acu/scu.
but removing it would dramaticaly lower the interest of the unit, and we would see an only brick spam (which is already the case in lot of game), like we are seeing an only perceval spam atm.

Btw, i really rarelly used to see emp use against T4/ACU/SCU anyway. most case were when first loyas are fighting against T2 armies.

i'm still looking forward for a buff of the titan though.
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Re: Loyalist stunning acus

Postby Morax » 10 Nov 2015, 23:05

Leave the loyalist alone... it's purpose is a heavy raider late game and same for the Titan.

I don't have the replay ID handy but check a game where it was myself, Ceneraii on right flank wonder vs Blodir and Nexus_Of_Reality. I marched three Titans in and wrecked all of Nexus' power / few mexes to stall him out and then Ceneraii and my t3 mobile artys could shoot without worry of having to take down shields.
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Re: Loyalist stunning acus

Postby JaggedAppliance » 10 Nov 2015, 23:19

I think it should still stun T4 even though that is very powerful, but acu stun is too much imo. Maybe nerf the stun time vs t4 slightly.
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Re: Loyalist stunning acus

Postby Morax » 10 Nov 2015, 23:51

Loyalists and Titans are a good solution to take mass spams of t1/t2 that still exist on the field, plus Loyalists get a bit longer life as they are good to stop experimental units. They are certainly good for raiding in both team and especially in 1v1 games on maps like Loki.

The real solution is proper strategy: guard your experimental units with support groups. Time and time again I see noobs send in lone experimental units in team games only to get lucky and snipe a comm or to mass dump and turn the tide of the game. If you are smart and put your units in front of the experimental to take down Loyalists you won't have this problem.

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Re: Loyalist stunning acus

Postby JaggedAppliance » 11 Nov 2015, 00:25

I've been abusing loyas, not being abused morax, don't worry :D

You're right, vs loyas an XP needs an escort of t3 tanks or it should get destroyed horribly.
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Re: Loyalist stunning acus

Postby buletproof_bob » 11 Nov 2015, 03:06

I would not be in favour of removing the emp, but if you do, it would still be better than titan. Definitely would not become a useless unit or unused.
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