Mongoose

[lextoc]

Can we make this unit a little stronger? It barely gets used!

[Gorton]

(Can this unit HIT ANYTHING)* ?

[yeager]

Idk, it's hard to balance, cause in its purest form it's a t2 sniper bot, and because some factions (cough, cough seraphim) lack any units that can cost effectively deal with them at t2

[lextoc]

Idk, it's hard to balance, cause in its purest form it's a t2 sniper bot, and because some factions (cough, cough seraphim) lack any units that can cost effectively deal with them at t2

What about hoplites? Aren't they some sort of t2 sniper bot... I don't agree with your opinion that it's hard to balance

[Apofenas]

Ithilis tried made them hit things properly with minigun weapon. However he didn't stop on it and made only 30 dps fire from gun acu range and rest from only 18, while unit became slower but got hp boost. He also adjusted the mass cost. So mongoose ended same under used as they were. Check it out. May be you'll like the concept or at least how their gatling weapon works.

[yeager]

i didnt say hopolites werent also t2 sniperbots, i'm just saying its aeon, and to an extent seraphim are gonna have a really hard time dealing with this, especially shield+ mongoose combo, so you need to be careful. id like the mongoose to be strong too, dont get me wrong, but hover is already not cost effective and aeon and sera have no other fast units, so the buff/ change would need to be done carefully.

[lextoc]

i'm just saying its aeon.

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[keyser]

don't listen to yeager he has some issue about "nerfing everything not seraphim, and buffing every sera unit"...

i played a team game on wonder yesterday, and i saw a real potential in mongoose. I didn't realised it before, but this is a really good unit for defense.

i can't really tell for 1v1, but i remember some high rated player (zock ?) saying that changing mongoose/hoplite is really tricky because they can become really really good real fast. We have some issue balancing unit that become good only when they are microed.

[Zock]

I said something similar to that, yes. We will probably look into mongoose at some point, but the next patch will focus on the things that got voted.

In fact, nerfing t3 will be a quite big indirect buff to mongoose.

[yeager]

don't listen to yeager he has some issue about "nerfing everything not seraphim, and buffing every sera unit"...

i played a team game on wonder yesterday, and i saw a real potential in mongoose. I didn't realised it before, but this is a really good unit for defense.

i can't really tell for 1v1, but i remember some high rated player (zock ?) saying that changing mongoose/hoplite is really tricky because they can become really really good real fast. We have some issue balancing unit that become good only when they are microed.

aeon and sera have no land defense against a micro mongoose, sure the micro is insane, but I'm just saying, and like i said I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BUFF TO MONGOOSE I'm not a nazi -.- Im just saying if we buff it wrong aeon and sera are gonna have a tough time