Cybran ACU > t2 level+ = useless?

[Shai--Hulud]

Messages about how op Cybran are keep popping up pretty often here. Of course without any real explanation though. Why do people keep yelling that Cybran are op?

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Jeez, is it really so hard to differentiate between being op and utterly useless?

[Reaper Zwei]

Jeez, is it really so hard to differentiate between being op and utterly useless?

Uh... when did anybody say cybran com was op?

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I didn't say anyone claimed Cybran ACU was op - but that Cybran in general is considered "strongest faction" and thus a stronger ACU would make them even stronger (more OP?). I think this is a bad justification for having the core unit of the game being almost useless.
Btw: considering one faction as being the strongest != one faction in fact being the strongest. And if it was the strongest it would mean one thing only: imbalanced game -> rebalancing needed.

[yeager]

I didn't say anyone claimed Cybran ACU was op - but that Cybran in general is considered "strongest faction" and thus a stronger ACU would make them even stronger (more OP?). I think this is a bad justification for having the core unit of the game being almost useless.
Btw: considering one faction as being the strongest != one faction in fact being the strongest. And if it was the strongest it would mean one thing only: imbalanced game -> rebalancing needed.

Well cybran and uef are definitely played more, and cybran is the only faction that has a real shot of winning at every tier vs everyother faction, good use of air and you can beat sera in t2, clever raiding and you can kill aeon in t1, and with some use of stealth you can beat uef in t3 (although uef will tend to kill cybran until exp stage) an you have similar succes in the air and naval game, no other faction is nearly as well rounded, and this is countered by a weak com, forcing you to be just as carefully at every tier as you are strong, this is not a perfect balance, but it works Pretty well, your only real weaknesses are in the units themselves and are hard to exploit (slow aa muzzle velocity, terrain issues or the rhino, turn rate on mantis) the only place you really suffer is in defense, and even the you have amazing arty and tmd, not to mention tml. So either come up with an entire rebalance that makes cybrans weaker all together, or leave the acu be.

[rxnnxs]

maybe you take one leg away from cybran acu. then it has to jump around the battlefield.
or gets just one arm! cool!
i think this would be an awesome tweak.
to even it then out, the mantis can fly and also turn on the fly and the brick can go stationary, increasing the range to that of the ravager and adds on top of that 5%

or even better, instead of upgrades, the cybran ACU could change color for 10000 mass and 500000 energy.
the other races can upgrade their legs also and the boots too.. faster walking, jumping around or even flying.
the cybran ACU looks so grim, it does not need to be strong. the enemy runs away.
yes, maybe all other faction should get a morale bar - and when the cybran ACU comes, the morale bar goes down no matter what.
the cybran instead, all have no morale bar, never runs... there is nothing to be afraid of..

the possibilities are endless!

[yeager]

Lol

[ZLO_RD]

Upgraide that does not allow enemy to know how much hp you got left would buff cyb com and fit in faction style, not sure if technically possible thought

[Reaper Zwei]

Upgraide that does not allow enemy to know how much hp you got left would buff cyb com and fit in faction style, not sure if technically possible thought

Maybe that's what cloak ought to do even when you have onmi. You just appear as a gray dot.

[ZeRen]

maybe cloak upgrade could cost similar to Sera nano and for cloak commander it would need 5/7/9 000 energy per sec