T3 Artillery Turret Symmetry

[quark036]

Naval yards is a great example of this, because one side gets their yard facing out into the sea with the engies hidden behind it, while the other side gets it facing into land with the engies in the open, and with the ships having trouble getting out into the open water.

[Ionic]

Especially UEF battleships, and Sera destroyers...

[zeroAPM]

Especially UEF battleships, and Sera destroyers...

Wrong thread?

[Ionic]

UEF destroyers get stuck and Sera destroyers get stuck under the factory because of the way the factory is facing relative to where you want your ships to go...

[Col_Walter_Kurtz]

Lots of naval units get stuck.

And they also have an amazing talent for turning the wrong way upon completion. Let's say you have a waypoint set north, they will inevitably turn south first, rotate a couple of times like the captain is drunk and then get stuck on some engineers or another boat anyway.

[codepants]

A possible workaround might be to have all buildings/units with turrets to spawn with their turrets facing the centre of the map.

I really like this.

90 degree increments is fine. Just have them spawn facing the 90 degree increment closest to the middle of the map.

[pza]

but whether or not this is a good idea for gameplay is very much debatable. It breaks adjacency for one thing.

Just highlighting this. It breaks adjacency. So, either rotatable buildings or adjacency, you choose. That's for the case adjecency cant be fixed, of course.

IF it can be fixed, 90° rotatable buildings would be clearly the best solution, not "face mid". The main reason beeing: on some maps, facing mid means facing a rock. best example: isis.

[Valki]

I think a very simple solution, for turret structures at least, is this:

After construction, all turret-based structures have maximum turret rotation speed [ until they have fired once / for 2 seconds / something ]."

This will allow structures' turrets to near-instantly face towards an enemy, regardless of placement. I think it is much easier for the player and the programmers, and should solve this problem.

[yeager]

I could be map specific, so say in Isis everything would point north, and on setons everything goes to the middle, so it is equal and ppl don't need to spend extra time placig the unit

[rxnnxs]

In another thread (I can not remember exactly but think it was about the TML and TMDs) it was also talked about the TMDs.
i mentioned that also the homing position is in favor for one and bad for the other opponent.
the TMD goes back to the "homing" position. It is always south (if i remember correct).
if someone fires from top to down, the TMD (UEF i.e.) has to turn 180° and at that time, the missile has moved further.
if vice versa, the missile is shot way faster.
in those cases, a fast movement before the first shot would not be the best solution.


it would be the best solution if buildings could be rotated with the middle mouse button just like build templates can be rotated. brought to us by a great mod (forgot the name, sorry) that is now implemented in FAF.
edit: its GAZ_UI and integrated