Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Lieutenant Lich » 12 Oct 2016, 13:36

Masyaka wrote:... get problems upgrading mexes with doing spam.

In the beginning of a game? No wonder you stall mass badly!
Don't complain about that which you aren't willing to change.

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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Masyaka » 12 Oct 2016, 16:11

Lich King wrote:
Masyaka wrote:... get problems upgrading mexes with doing spam.

In the beginning of a game? No wonder you stall mass badly!


I stop facs for upgrading mexes, or i shouldnt? Should i get a T2 mex before spamming? How to even spam efficently? (I make tanks, arty and scouts, still dying to packs of mantis or auroras even with epic micro) I think getting a T1 PD and then going for T2 PD to not loose to arty is the best option for me. This also forces enemy to go T2 for rocket launchers and try to overhelm my TMD meanwhile im ecoing. After i get ravagers they will need to go for heavy artillery.
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Darth_Google » 12 Oct 2016, 16:18

Ill ask again, whats your general build order?
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Masyaka » 12 Oct 2016, 17:33

Darth_Google wrote:Ill ask again, whats your general build order?


Hydro
Fac > 2 mexes > hydro
2 engineers spamming pgens
2 engineers making mexes nearby (or elese if the map has mexes in other points)

no hydro

Fac > some pgens > 2 engis pgens
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Darth_Google » 12 Oct 2016, 17:58

I strongly suspect that you are going to experience a power stall big time in both cases since the resource balance on those is far from perfect. I'd suggest you to tweak those.
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Masyaka » 12 Oct 2016, 18:26

Darth_Google wrote:I strongly suspect that you are going to experience a power stall big time in both cases since the resource balance on those is far from perfect. I'd suggest you to tweak those.


I never get power stalls, its always fine. Except if i begin arty or fatboy without enough T2 pgens.
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Darth_Google » 12 Oct 2016, 20:12

Masyaka wrote:
Darth_Google wrote:I strongly suspect that you are going to experience a power stall big time in both cases since the resource balance on those is far from perfect. I'd suggest you to tweak those.


I never get power stalls, its always fine. Except if i begin arty or fatboy without enough T2 pgens.

Interesting. Could be on the other hand that you overinvest in gens instead of units or go after 2nd air w/o having a map control first.

Another guess would be to advise you to raid your enemy more.
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby biass » 12 Oct 2016, 23:46

DON'T
MAKE
T2
MEXES
EARLY


Get half map please...
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby Lieutenant Lich » 13 Oct 2016, 04:05

1)
I pause facs to make mexes. Should I get T2 mexes before facs?

No. That is the root of your troubles. T2 mexes come ONLY after facs.

2) You have not read even half the post I wrote on expansion. And yes, I answered your question on PDs, look carefully.

3) biass told you to get half the map and he is right. More map control = more mexes = more facs = more units = overwhelming your enemy = victory. Map control is obtained by sending engies early on to closest mex clusters, LAB + scout raiding parties to your enemy's base, using scouts to find engies and LABs to kill them (if seraphim, send selens to find and exterminate engies and some more selens to cloak near enemy base and in chokepoints). Do not be reactive to your opponent. Make him react to you. Raid him. If you cannot raid on land - bomb his expansion engies after scouting them out. Use subs to kill underwater mexes if you are on a map with those.

4) T2 mex upgrades must be done ONLY when you can afford not having 20 tanks in the field and still not be at risk of being overrun.

5) Losing air? Couple AAs in your base to scare off enemy inties and to stop/prevent bombings, then more air facs that spam inties.
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Re: Tactics/Strategy help. Answering your questions.

Postby JenZor » 13 Oct 2016, 07:32

Masyaka wrote:
Darth_Google wrote:Ill ask again, whats your general build order?


Hydro
Fac > 2 mexes > hydro
2 engineers spamming pgens
2 engineers making mexes nearby (or elese if the map has mexes in other points)

no hydro

Fac > some pgens > 2 engis pgens


Supreme Commander - FAF Tutorial 1 - Generic Build Orders for Beginners by Heaven

The Rest was said by all the other. Get half the map, deny foe from getting his half. Getting and holding one of his mexes will gives you an advantage of 2 mexes (he has one less, you one more than half = +2)

Do not be reactive to your opponent. Make him react to you.

In fact you should be reactive to your opponent meaning that you suppost to scout what he is doing and counter his stuff. (Avoiding this strength, attacking his weaknesses)
Raid him.

More like raid him if it is worth. Killing an early Expansion Engi with LAB and Scout is awesome while attacking 3 Expansion T1 Mexes with 20 T3 Bots and losing all of them to air or PDs is a terrible Exchange.

But what am i talking .. i'm a noob on my own ;D
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