Torrent class - missle ship

[Ithilis_Quo]

Previous path make that ship, non-comparable with cruisers

Torrent ship is equal choice with UEF battleship to bombarding coast bases, and by previous changes its useless, or better say absolutly uncomparable units.
http://faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/unit.p ... 02,XSS0202

battle ship has 3 aoe, more dmg and can fire on moving units, torrent cant, and torrent has 1,5aoe, cost is cca same, battleship has 3,5x more hp, its many time more versatile units, its anti-navy, anti base, its horde of HP units.
4cruiser(same mass, dont need T3) has 3aoe, 1000dps, more rocket, 3250 AA flak dmg, it is moving half time faster, and its many time faster to build.

I think that is time to get back they previous stat, for on bombarding coast be better like cruiser or battleship. 1000dmg/missile, and 5 aoe, or maybe 4 for be better like cruiser and worse than tempest.


Of cours can build tempest, what is better, but its experimental, cost horde of mass, and for what role then is torrent when only role they has,when the only role for which it is constructed is the worst (cant do anything else) and T2 is better

[IceDreamer]

The unit's strength is in it's unbelievable 200 Range. It is infinitely superior to any other unit in the game when it comes to bombarding a heavily defended base. Personally, I have never managed to repel a dedicated Torrent bombardment. They're INSANE.

[dstojkov]

It is infinitely superior to any other unit in the game when it comes to bombarding a heavily defended base

In mass comparaison the cruiser do it better

[pip]

The unit's strength is very long range and high number of missiles with each 2 hp. And please keep this balance topic for the next patch, it won't be changed in 3626.

[IceDreamer]

It is infinitely superior to any other unit in the game when it comes to bombarding a heavily defended base

In mass comparaison the cruiser do it better

Not by a bloody long shot. These things have SO much extra range they outclass the bombardment capability of any cruiser by a factor of 10. The range means they cannot be engaged by shore defences, and also means that they can position the boats well beyond your reach behind an entire Navy, a Navy which is itself out of range of any shore-bound defences.

[Ithilis_Quo]

And please keep this balance topic for the next patch, it won't be changed in 3626.

Im all time in this balance rule-> buffing aeon, thats what all of my topic here are, What i know you change torrent on that what is now.
So instead of buff only cancel previous insine 76%nerf

The unit's strength is in it's unbelievable 200 Range.

cruiser has 150, that 50 is ubelieveble insine diferences? T2 arthy has 128 range, its no diference 200 or 150, only navy what can fire on cruiser and on torrent not is UEF battleship 150-150, but battleship is half time faster, and you must be sure that battleship is better like torrent, on bombardment too, torrent take 8000dmg 1,5aoe battleship take 9000dmg 3 aoe. That what i suggest isnt change, its only take back what was changet before, idea in past was making torrent more comporable with tempest, but absoluthly forget on another ships with same role. Torrent lose 76% of him dmg (thats real) whitout any discusion, and that change was wrong, that units is uncomparable with another units with same role, T2is better or battleship is many time better, all has another role and bombardment is only bonus.
800/1000 = 0,8 -1 => -20% 1,5/5 =0,3-1 => -70% 80x0,3= 24; 100%-24%=76%

The unit's strength is very long range and high number of missiles with each 2 hp

battleship shot is indestructible, similar range -> 9 000dmg 3aoe
sera cruiser is T2, with same mass they fire 40 rocket with 1hp, -> 20 000dmg, 3 aoe
UEF cruiser is T2, with same mass they fire 32 rocket with 1hp. -> 9 600dmg- 3aoe
aeon torrent, bmbardment specialist, fire 10 rocketwith 2hp, -> 8 000dmg, 1,5aoe
50range isnt real value, its good that has better range like cruiser, but oh my got its T3, not T2, of course it would has better range like cruiser, or battleship, when it has another uses, what torrent has not.

[Ato0theJ]

Saying that 200 isn't much better than 150 is serious noobspeak. What, do you want aeon to have 3 battleships? Maybe if you made suggestions on the other factions other than nerfing them people would take you seriously- but they don't.

[Tex]

I doubt you have ever watched 2 Torrents go through stacked shields, and scattered TMD just to wreak havoc on an enemy base. Its just fine as it is. Its power comes from the volley fire, which overwhelms shields and TMD. Plus, Aeon need something that can, well you know, break bases, Their cruiser has no missiles or a decent gun, and their battleship and destroyer CAN NOT out range T2 arty installations (128 range on arty vs 100 on T3 battleship and 80 on T2 destoyer.) It has a specific role, just like the rest of the aeon navy. No need to make it omnipotent at everything.

[Ithilis_Quo]

Saying that 200 isn't much better than 150 is serious noobspeak.

Seriously, whats a differents between 150 and 200? only differences is that torrent can fire 50 further on land when is near clift. 50 isnt so much. 80-90% of you bases is destroed on 150 range.

What, do you want aeon to have 3 battleships?

Torrent isnt battleship same, Tempest is experimental battleship, its experimental units, its different. Its same like say "What you want serafin has 4 bombers?!" or "Seriously you want Cybran has 3land assault units?!" or one again "Are you sure that cybran would has 4gunships, you are serious!?"

Torent is bombard specialist, who would be excelent against coast bases, thats him role, where must be best, becase its aeon styll, has units with one specific role, where are excelent and ussles in another. Torrent isnt excelent and isnt good in him role and are ussles in all another, has zero direct fire, anti air dmg, has few hp, can be easy destroed by ships, air and hoover units, its slow, expensive. Is ussed only becase aeon hasnt another units for that role. And that dont want i, but Chriss Taylor and GPG when code that unit, What i want is take it like it was before, because this unit was 76% nerfed and i see it like uncomporable with another cheaper units.

Try compare it with UEF, they fire in volley, are T2, are faster, has many anti-air dmg, has direct fire dmg, and take more rocket dmg like torrent.
styll see it OK?

Maybe if you made suggestions on the other factions other than nerfing them people would take you seriously- but they don't.

I made more suggestion, about another fraction too, but here in balance take only suggestion about aeon, because how you can read a rule, its in then i take only about what is in rules, becase think that change about engy are good, and are here another peaple who code it and know it better dont bring nothing about engy mod. Whereas play primary aeons, and take many discusiou about they and they strong/weak sides and reason why is here so few player 1900+ who take it (whitout random) that bring suggestion about aeon, becase know they army.

The main change is the integration of engymod, and was already voted in.
That is the primary focus of this patch.
The second focus is to balance things around engymod.
The third focus is to buff aeon, as they are behind for a while now.

[IceDreamer]

What's this 76% nerf he's on about?

Also, I just tested them. 'They are meant to be the best bombardment weapon the Aeon have'

New for you mate: THEY ARE.