pip wrote:ShadowKnight wrote:The Rhino should not get 1450 HP. The Cybran design philosophy for its main land tanks relative to UEF (Which is how the Devs intended the faction to be balanced) is 'Lower HP, *Higher speed*, Higher but less frontloaded DPS'. The current Rhino is nicely done relative to the Pillar, both ingame and in terms of factional philosophy. The Wegner is just too good, and so that is the unit which should be changed. I'm with massively buffing the Amphibious function and leaving it the weakest of the Hovertanks on land (<50% Rhino DPS, <Rhino HP, 3.7 Speed, massive Torpedo DPS).
What are you talking about? If the rhino gets the price of the wagner (300 mass), 1450 HP will still be less than a pillar (1500 HP) that costs only 200 mass. Rhino already have more speed than pillar. Your concern about the faction design is empty.
The Cybran will have a tank which is as heavy and robust, with additional Speed and DPS per unit as the UEF. This. Must. Not. Happen. My concern about faction design is on very solid ground. It is one of the main things which makes this game's balance so sweet, that the factions are so subtly different with themes which carry all the way through them.
The current Rhino is totally fine relative to the Pillar, which is what it should ALWAYS be compared to. The Wagner is the issue.