Balance Test Mod.

[Ze_PilOt]

Restorers: HP should return to normal (6500 HP)

Without FunkOff test, they are already at 6500.

[pip]

Restorers: HP should return to normal (6500 HP)

Without FunkOff test, they are already at 6500.

Yes, I just wanted to be sure of that. It was not from Funkoff's change, but from mine. It was not removed when Funk's changes were made, so I just wanted to make sure Restorer was ... restored! (I don't think it's necessary to change them).

[dstojkov]

Hi

I am trying to set up new settings for bombers to avoid the ballistic script. I am the meaning that we should avoid as much as possible foreign script and extra calcutation when the engine already do that we just need to adjust the settings to get the searched behavior.


I will test it soon on my own mod and give feed back then

[Ze_PilOt]

Why fixing something that works ?

[HEAVY]

NB: players will have to be careful to spread out their t3 bombers and gunships to attack where SAM are present.

This reads as more micro required to me. I don't disagree with a small AOE for SAMs, but let's make it small so that micro gives one at advantage but is still not absolutely required.

[Firestarter]

Two things:

Firstly, I did a bit of a test and I quite like what Funkoff has done - due to factors altered about ASFs they can't just be thrown up over an enemy base any more, and whilst scary (huge alpha damage) against ALL air units, their reduced turn rate and rate of fire means they don't immediately render all T2 fighters obsolete despite being a clear upgrade. Also I love how the higher speed allows them to chase stuff down and patrol huge areas of the map quickly if needed. They really are 'air superiority' in that respect.

Secondly, pip is right though cybran carrier tracking fix did not work.

[skakarn]

Aurora are still are still getting stuck , and if they are not , they move backward at reduced speed .
its really hard to kite this way , it is suposed to be able to get uses of its range but .

low hp
back reverse speed at best
not enough damage .

now , about the aurora tanking ration and t1 in general .

a tanking ratio is determined by some factors :
-the damage the tank receive
-the damage the tank give
-the damage that is avoided ( strafe )

first of all , as your auroras gets stuck ,they are sitting ducks and die
second , the damage it gives is either not satisfying because the enemy will be able to swiftly kill the aurora before that aurora kills it
third , a commander with gun upgrade will oneshot auroras , others tanks are 2 shot , meaning you need at least two auroras to apply half the damage two other t1 will do , because they take their beating and smile where others take advantage of the natural damage they can receive
fourth a commander will 2 shot with normal gun an aurora , others , 3 shots , meaning you need at least three auroras to match the number of shots a commander send to kill other tanks , exept of course that they can try to manouver and dont get stuck with a smile .

So , differents points of view :

get the 360 turret , will allow them to dodge like other do
let aurora gun be buffed to deal more damage so the tanking ratio goes in favor of dps
or raise aurora hp wich is not the plot

buff aurora ! (id like 360 degree turet)


for asf :

i pulled some , didnt saw them cause they were already down , t1 busted them , ill check more later


done a test with pip :

if you repetivly give orders to them , they get stuck , if you only go back they dont , meaning theres still problems but gets better

[pip]

Auroras are good enough now, just don't click like crazy. Even if you click several times, it's better than before. It's already a good buff.

[skakarn]

yeah , cant wait it to be live

[Supreme321]

T4 nuke doesn't need a cost reduction, its already strong enough. Once someone gets it on the map the game is over no matter what, I've never seen a player win versus one of these nuke once.