Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Postby Ze_PilOt » 15 Feb 2013, 18:28

Aeon t3 Torp Bomber (solace)
Mass: 1650 --> 1200
energy: 55000--> 60000
Build Time: 6600-->5600
engage distance: 50-->75

The t3 Torp bomber seems useless simply because it costs the same as a cruiser, which it will most likely be used to kill it, so if you fail at killing the cruiser then you pretty much lost the equivalent cost of a cruiser easily.
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Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Postby Arkansas » 15 Feb 2013, 20:42

I would be in favour of buffing all torpedo bombers, particularly that one though.

The problem to me seems to be the bombers not dropping rather than the range. If you put a ship near land its safe from torp bombers, this is a particular problem on eots. Perhaps reducing the range and drop distance would help.
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Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Postby HyperNova » 15 Feb 2013, 20:47

I agree with all of the above.
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Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Postby Plasma_Wolf » 15 Feb 2013, 21:19

For a unit that does 4000 damage? Please consider the following:

  • If the T3 torpedo bomber does succeed, the cruiser is destroyed.
  • As said, the torpedo bomber does 4000 damage in a single run (I know it says 2K instead of 4K in the unitDB, but that is an error). Strategic bombers cost more than that, but have a lower speed and do less damage. I haven't seen many occasions in which the strategic bombers were expected to last longer than one bombing run, yet you do expect a torpedo bomber to last longer than one run, while it costs less and is more effective?
  • The cruiser is a dedicated AA unit. Shouldn't it be able to trump a torpedo bomber, the very unit it is supposed to defend its fleet against (Even if it is T3)? I think of it as flak vs T2 gunships.
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Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Postby Poch » 16 Feb 2013, 11:48

T3 aeon torp bombers are worth their price, and are unique (faction flavour) and quite strong. Aeon is most likely to get air superiority and when you have it, just a few of them will wipe out entire navys in no time. No you can't use them to kill ennemy base torpedo launchers by flying over SAMs, and yes multiple cruisers would kill them. Cruiser means AA, so it is expected.

Maybe ALL (T2/T3) torpedo bombers could use an hp boost, however. I do not use them offen, as as long as there is 1 or 2 cruisers in navy, it feels like wasted mass. Thats why i am thinking of more HP. But if i am Aeon, i use the T3 a lot, as they are always nice to see in action, even when they die at first pass. Just have to plan them to get maximum profit.

One feature that may be be cool, however would be "real" torpedos which goes for a long range, allowing the plane to successfully deliver its charge most of the time, even if it get killed just after that by going over ennemy navy. But i don't think it is doable or a real good idea for FA as it stands.
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Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Postby eXivo » 16 Feb 2013, 19:23

torp bombers already cost effectively counter cruisers (talking about t2, haven't played aeon enough to be sure about the t3 one)
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Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Postby Stratocaster » 17 Feb 2013, 10:18

On this topic, can someone do something about Sera Torp bomber? It's the only one with torps that get eaten up torp defense and it's just plain utterly useless vs the naval units, the only units it is designed to attack.
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Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Postby ColonelSheppard » 17 Feb 2013, 15:04

Stratocaster wrote:On this topic, can someone do something about Sera Torp bomber?

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Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Postby stalewee » 18 Feb 2013, 00:10

I think torp bombers are already too strong against cruisers.

Also, does increasing the "engage distance" means that that bomber will drop the torpedos earlier? That would make it almost impossible to snipe a commander standing in a small pool of water (e.g. at "rock" on a certain popular map)
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Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

Postby Batmansrueckkehr » 18 Feb 2013, 13:02

i think all torp bombers are fine as they are - besides the sera torp bomber.

concerning the aoen t3 torp - very fast, good hp, a lot of dmg, it is fair for the prize.
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