Gifted Engineering Stations/Hives disabled by default

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Gifted Engineering Stations/Hives disabled by default

Postby Phlegm » 02 Jan 2015, 04:22

I normally play with friends, but we decided to try out playing with other players today.

In almost all games someone built a Hive/Engineering Station and gifted it to other players, which then sapped their ressources until they noticed, if they noticed at all. One even did it after I already helped with 3 T2 engies, seems they did it out of principle.

To me that is a very reprehensible move (to not use stronger words), and is basically stealing ressources from your teammates.
It's like saying that their project is more important than your eco or project.
Is this a reprimandable/bannable offense? It should be.

Sure, you notice some times, and kill or regift the station, but sometimes you don't, or much too late.
Honestly, I really felt like dropping a TML on their head. I didn't because that will get you banned, but I really wanted to.

So I suggest a simple fix: Make gifted engineering stations / hives have support disabled by default.

That way you can choose to help, but no one can just steal your ressources (and maybe crash your eco) until you notice.
They can build a station and gift it to you, but you have to enable it for it to start working.

Spending ressources on your teammates should be a conscious choice, and I don't want to have to check every minute if my teammates are stealing them.
I have enough to do to manage my own stuff.

What do you guys think?

EDIT: Fixed typo in title.
Last edited by Phlegm on 03 Jan 2015, 17:41, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Gifted Eningeering Stations/Hives disabled by default

Postby E8400-CV » 02 Jan 2015, 15:15

Agree

But the same people that were enemies of the idea of being able to capture a T1 engi from your ally "Because nothing you can do about that" had nothing to say about this, because "you can just turn the station off / give it back"....
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Re: Gifted Eningeering Stations/Hives disabled by default

Postby Zoram » 02 Jan 2015, 15:32

E8400-CV wrote:Agree

But the same people that were enemies of the idea of being able to capture a T1 engi from your ally "Because nothing you can do about that" had nothing to say about this, because "you can just turn the station off / give it back"....


Ha ? I am against capturing ally units and yet I strongly support Phlegm ' idea. I haven't seen it happen in game ( maybe I wasn't paying attention ) but I agree that if that actually happens, it's pretty close to an exploit.
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Re: Gifted Eningeering Stations/Hives disabled by default

Postby Aurion » 02 Jan 2015, 16:16

E8400-CV wrote:Agree

But the same people that were enemies of the idea of being able to capture a T1 engi from your ally "Because nothing you can do about that" had nothing to say about this, because "you can just turn the station off / give it back"....


Stop being butthurt. I think this idea is pretty good, but your 'capture from allies' idea is a really bad one.
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Re: Gifted Eningeering Stations/Hives disabled by default

Postby Phlegm » 02 Jan 2015, 16:52

Zoram wrote:I haven't seen it happen in game ( maybe I wasn't paying attention ) but I agree that if that actually happens, it's pretty close to an exploit.


We played 4 games that evening, and in at least 3 of those games this "tactic" was used.
Twice against me and others, once against a friend.
Player ratings in those games were around 1200-1500.

I knew this "tactic", but I didn't know it was used, and so widely used too.

When it hit us 3 times in four games, I decided to make a post here.
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Re: Gifted Eningeering Stations/Hives disabled by default

Postby Vee » 02 Jan 2015, 16:59

Reclaim their base to get the mass back.
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Re: Gifted Eningeering Stations/Hives disabled by default

Postby Aulex » 02 Jan 2015, 17:14

Just have them autopause on transfer
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Re: Gifted Eningeering Stations/Hives disabled by default

Postby E8400-CV » 02 Jan 2015, 18:06

Aurion wrote:
E8400-CV wrote:Agree

But the same people that were enemies of the idea of being able to capture a T1 engi from your ally "Because nothing you can do about that" had nothing to say about this, because "you can just turn the station off / give it back"....


Stop being butthurt. I think this idea is pretty good, but your 'capture from allies' idea is a really bad one.


They are both good ideas. ;)
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Re: Gifted Eningeering Stations/Hives disabled by default

Postby IceDreamer » 02 Jan 2015, 19:03

IMO it's despicable behaviour, but it's an issue for the mods. Just make it an offence, and ban those caught doing it.
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Re: Gifted Eningeering Stations/Hives disabled by default

Postby belatedcube » 02 Jan 2015, 20:14

Aurion wrote:
E8400-CV wrote:Agree

But the same people that were enemies of the idea of being able to capture a T1 engi from your ally "Because nothing you can do about that" had nothing to say about this, because "you can just turn the station off / give it back"....


Stop being butthurt. I think this idea is pretty good, but your 'capture from allies' idea is a really bad one.

I agree it would be a bad idea. it would be abused pretty heavily, and the moderator team would be busy watching replays of teamgames.

back on topic: I wouldn't object to it at all.
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