after death base/all explosion, new game condition

[Ithilis_Quo]

Dont take this as a pour more oil on previous discusion. my mind was catching on Gorton note after ally die his base/all is destroed instead of wall. This is how this idea was born.

What is going on:

As we all know on most common game condition share until death all units after death explode.
(Instead of wall - dont know why it is exclusion, but i like it. )

My idea is make game condition what would lead on not explode after death, but re-categories all units after acu death to pacifist - neutral. They would not fire, not move not do nothing. Only exist and w8 for destroing, reclaiming or capturing. Maybe work as defense structure via meat shield. And as a ghost city - epitaph of fallen hero who was die for the empire..

For me it looks great.
See neutral tanks spreed on map, base whiteotu life, where machine stop working, where animal and nature start get palce back. And where enginers then crowds of enginers and army would reclaiming, and capturing building for restoration the old glory of base!



What do you think about it?

[Mycen]

I've never liked neutral civilians. And considering how much easier it is to reclaim than capture (and how much more useful, most of the time) having neutral units that are alive would be worse than having the units just die and make their reclaim more readily available for their allies.

If we're talking about turning a dead player's units into civilians, I think it would be much cooler to have them be set to whatever civilian condition the game is set to. If the civilian setting is hostile (which it always should be because that's the coolest) it could prevent an entire flank from instantly collapsing if your ally is sniped, while also making the snipes potentially more devastating as the player's units go haywire, attacking everything. I think that would be a fun mod.

[Ithilis_Quo]

But on reclaim you take only 90% of mass instead of 100% and for building new you need more time as for capture.
When you want only mass it is easyr when it is wreck, but maybe you want first build tower in what already exist and it is easyr capture. Or you want to enginers what are only w8 for capture. It is much easyr like simply reclaim.

but this is not as must to be for all game, its game option.

[ZLO_RD]

nice idea

[Kalvirox]

Good idea.
I jump to another conclusion though..
If we can do this. can we make a "Zombies" mod where, when a unit dies it comes back 10 seconds later hostile to all players? There was a mod like this on starcraft and it was awesome. Just an Idea ofcourse.

[Aulex]

Good idea.
I jump to another conclusion though..
If we can do this. can we make a "Zombies" mod where, when a unit dies it comes back 10 seconds later hostile to all players? There was a mod like this on starcraft and it was awesome. Just an Idea ofcourse.

Would the wreckage be there?

[Mycen]

Good idea.
I jump to another conclusion though..
If we can do this. can we make a "Zombies" mod where, when a unit dies it comes back 10 seconds later hostile to all players? There was a mod like this on starcraft and it was awesome. Just an Idea ofcourse.

Would the wreckage be there?

You'd have to kill it again, right?

[Ithilis_Quo]

Have another idea about game condition, that can total change game mechanism, and would be more mod as standard game
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"Plague after death"

after acu death, player is destroyed and hes out of game.
All him units and structure dont explode, and for
-first 60sec are neutral and dont do nothing.
-another 60sec are enemy neutral, dont move, only shoot on everything around
-after 60 sec whole base/units start controled medium AI who is enemy with everyone (insted of another AI that is ally).
-after 5 minute medium AI change to hard AI
-after 5 min hard AI change to Insine cheating AI.
-and every 5 minute would change cheating parameters more and more..

In end of all, map can be polluted with AI who is in war with all alive players. team with last alive player win (no need to kill AI)

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It can be very frustrating, and race for destroy and reclaim death ally base, for dont change to be monster. All death AI would play together as one team, that can change player behavior for first destroy plague and then focus to enemy team.

[RoLa]

i had a bit similiar idea some time ago - an extended Murder Party Mod with vassals and hegemons:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8143&p=76932&hilit=vassals#p76932

[Col_Walter_Kurtz]

Have another idea about game condition, that can total change game mechanism, and would be more mod as standard game
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"Plague after death"

after acu death, player is destroyed and hes out of game.
All him units and structure dont explode, and for
-first 60sec are neutral and dont do nothing.
-another 60sec are enemy neutral, dont move, only shoot on everything around
-after 60 sec whole base/units start controled medium AI who is enemy with everyone (insted of another AI that is ally).
-after 5 minute medium AI change to hard AI
-after 5 min hard AI change to Insine cheating AI.
-and every 5 minute would change cheating parameters more and more..

In end of all, map can be polluted with AI who is in war with all alive players. team with last alive player win (no need to kill AI)

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It can be very frustrating, and race for destroy and reclaim death ally base, for dont change to be monster. All death AI would play together as one team, that can change player behavior for first destroy plague and then focus to enemy team.

That sounds incredibly fun!