Gold Stars

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Gold Stars

Postby Herbert » 29 Jun 2014, 14:05

To ZEP + other mods

I have been thinking of ways to allow players to assess the skill levels of others which doesn't require much programming or vast amounts of data to be stored by the FAF servers.

Currently I feel score doesn't work because too many people free ride off better players to get their rank. I have played against 1500-2000s who play like they are 800 and vice versa.

So how about every player can be rated with a gold star system? Other people on FAF could giving them gold stars (out of 10 perhaps) and the average could be displayed in game lobbys or by right clicking on them in chat and selecting view player statistics.

Then, as an example, people hosting could say only people with 1000+ and 5 stars or 1500+ and 8 stars etc. It would also help correct bad attitudes in game because abusive players will end up with a low star average when people get their revenge by awarding them just 1 gold star.
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Re: Gold Stars

Postby Mad`Mozart » 29 Jun 2014, 14:31

I would then give my friends 10 stars and everyone else 0 stars, cause f*** your system :)
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Re: Gold Stars

Postby Xinnony » 29 Jun 2014, 14:47

I like this, i can update the Lobby InGame (FA) for include this change.
Or Battlefield grade (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6961&p=68515&hilit=battlefield#p68515)
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Re: Gold Stars

Postby BRNKoINSANITY » 29 Jun 2014, 15:55

First of all, please...... PLEASE start using the suggestion forum. You have to scroll past the suggestion forum to post to General Discussions, so I think everyone has seen it.

Secondly, there has been a great amount of squabbling over the rating system, and none of it is fruitful. The reality is, EVERY rating system is partially flawed and can be exploited to some degree whether large or small. The rating system that we have in place is one of the most solid that you can have, and is handled brilliantly compared to other games. I think we should leave well enough alone.
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Re: Gold Stars

Postby Mr-Smith » 29 Jun 2014, 16:00

ya the current system is not perfect but far better than in any other game I know
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Re: Gold Stars

Postby E8400-CV » 29 Jun 2014, 16:47

Not gonna work.
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Re: Gold Stars

Postby sasin » 29 Jun 2014, 18:45

BRNKoINSANITY wrote:First of all, please...... PLEASE start using the suggestion forum. You have to scroll past the suggestion forum to post to General Discussions, so I think everyone has seen it.

Secondly, there has been a great amount of squabbling over the rating system, and none of it is fruitful. The reality is, EVERY rating system is partially flawed and can be exploited to some degree whether large or small. The rating system that we have in place is one of the most solid that you can have, and is handled brilliantly compared to other games. I think we should leave well enough alone.


Strongly agree with this. I have seen some players with poor ratings that play great and some players with higher ratings that play badly. It happens. It's pretty hard to free ride off of other players to get your rating to go up... because the points gained or lost are based on the match up. Unless I'm missing something? I'd say that the main reason why it happens is that there are a lot of different skills in sup com, and people have different strengths etc. If you put someone in a position they're better at they play better than their rating etc.

Anyways, gold stars would be susceptible to the same problem. It could also turn rating into a popularity contest. It also would enable bad players to assess other players... people often blame the wrong person for a loss. People in general will probably do a really bad job of rating others... much better to let the results determine the rating.

Like Brnk said, the rating system is really, really good. In my experience, a really small amount of games is swung based on someone being way worse/way better than his rating. As long as you intelligently balance positions before the game, the games are often really close.

I'm guessing that the phenomenon you're noticing is more the result of people having good/bad games. I'm ~1350, but some games I crush a ~1700, and some games I just blow it for my team. Part of that is being good/bad at different maps, and another part is people having a particularly good game. Sup com is often swung by really small decisions and slim margins. If you're tired and forget to turn on infinite build on a factory, it can be the different between a stomp and being stomped. It's the nature of the game. No rating system will avoid that.
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Re: Gold Stars

Postby C-Star » 03 Jul 2014, 18:18

Despite i strongly agree that the rating system is really good, it might be an option to rate teammembers after each game on a scale form -10 to +10 for being good/bad, having an Average of 0, so that not all can bee good/bad.
This rating could be combined with the existing "automatic" rating and give it a boost/nerf in a range of +-50% or sth.

Pros:
- personal satisfaction for being able to punish stupid teammembers
- Good work maybe appreciated / bad work is also rewarded

Cons:
- maybe hard for teams who lost and make each other responsible :lol:
- i may always rate my firens/buddies with +10
- personally i dont get all the thing i am doing/should do in a game - so i hardly get, what the other do. Maybe i just dont see the "good" actions and rate him bad :oops:
- noob-bashing :(
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Re: Gold Stars

Postby D4E_Omit » 03 Jul 2014, 19:31

Or you can do a system like LoL which lets you rate players with : Friendly, Helpful etc after the game (Anybody who has played lol will understand)
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Re: Gold Stars

Postby Reaper Zwei » 04 Jul 2014, 03:13

Not this topic again! I understand that some team game players don't like some team members and would love to rate them based on how well they think they did but that just doesn't work, that's biased. And from what I see a lot of the people that complain about all the people on their team that are "noobs" or whatever other remark they come up with they themselves tend to be the worst offenders.
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