New Support Unit Type

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New Support Unit Type

Postby necxelos » 21 Feb 2014, 17:18

So after toying a little with the game itself and biggest mods available here and there I feel like the "weel of ideas" is a little empty. All the units added are just big-bad-guns and nothing more. They add variety but they don't add fresh concepts (maybe except 4DC and it's unique race abilities but this doesn't work so far anyway).

My idea is to expand every faction roster with support type units (units that provide some kind of buffs/debuffs but don't deal any damage on their own), for example:
- Stationary targeting computer and mobile targeting comoputer (enhances accuracy/damage of friendly units/buildings in a small area around it),
- Nanobots Cloud (kind of a mobile engineering station that heals small amount of hp in small area around them),
- Stationary navigation computer and mobile navigation computer (enhances speed of friendly units in a small area around it),
- Weather Control Center (big building that allows to create fog/rain/blizzard in a small targeted area - nuke-like ability, which reduces visibility range and accuracy in target area but deals no damage),
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Re: New Support Unit Type

Postby ZLO_RD » 21 Feb 2014, 19:01

o.o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeKf8yGi ... 9AF9720F1D 0:44 - 1:03 command turret alowing to increase accuracy of all assigned units :3, also it makes them targetfire one unit and kill enemy units one by one
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Re: New Support Unit Type

Postby Xinnony » 21 Feb 2014, 19:32

Weather Control Center <3
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Re: New Support Unit Type

Postby Lionhardt » 21 Feb 2014, 19:52

Sure, do whatever you like... IN A MOD! Please don't suggest bringing that kind of superfluous mechanics into the game. We don't need any more micro heavy stuff in the game - like focus firing buffer units. That kind of stuff belongs into StarCraft and co.
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Re: New Support Unit Type

Postby dstojkov » 22 Feb 2014, 00:58

Hi,

Sera already have something you could appreciate : the jamming crystal.
I reworked the original one in my mod so that you have blips for every type of unit : air, land and also navy ... yes even sub can get fooled :-) what wasn't the case in the original one. The type of unit get also reworked .. before blips were only of t1 level ... now they are t3 of course for every type( air, .... )

I tell you some people claim i buffed only one faction in my mod ( aeon ) but in reality ... sera will rule them all !!! :-P


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Re: New Support Unit Type

Postby necxelos » 22 Feb 2014, 03:45

Lionhardt wrote:Sure, do whatever you like... IN A MOD! Please don't suggest bringing that kind of superfluous mechanics into the game. We don't need any more micro heavy stuff in the game - like focus firing buffer units. That kind of stuff belongs into StarCraft and co.
No micro at all. I meant it as unit composition:
- For healing/buffing mobile units it's a just a stacking effect. Every other unit in group enhances buff for like 1% or something. Should work like a shield - drains energy and You either turn it on or off. No micro involved.

I believe there is big space for improvement here because units in SupCom don't really synergize with each thus You just use best of what You can afford. This way it could more of a strategic decision: More weaker units with few support units to improve them, smaller number of stronger units without support or extremely slow number of best units with few best support units. Not to mention deciding between type of improvement You want most in current situation...

Also I'd like to hear some more ideas for types of units that could be present in "support" type roster.
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Re: New Support Unit Type

Postby necxelos » 22 Feb 2014, 03:47

dstojkov wrote:Hi,

Sera already have something you could appreciate : the jamming crystal.
I reworked the original one in my mod so that you have blips for every type of unit : air, land and also navy ... yes even sub can get fooled :-) what wasn't the case in the original one. The type of unit get also reworked .. before blips were only of t1 level ... now they are t3 of course for every type( air, .... )

I tell you some people claim i buffed only one faction in my mod ( aeon ) but in reality ... sera will rule them all !!! :-P


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Some reference please (mod name, mod link, mod wiki -> something)... I have no idea what You're talking about :mrgreen:
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Re: New Support Unit Type

Postby Resin_Smoker » 26 Feb 2014, 21:27

Necxelos has no real modding ability, at least he's not published anything. Rather he's a child with a big mouth and an internet connection.

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Re: New Support Unit Type

Postby necxelos » 27 Feb 2014, 05:48

a) Stick this accusation where sun doesn't reach Resin.
b) Where in this topic I said I will do it? This is suggestion section so I'm giving an idea for someone to realize.
c) Another highly constructive and usefull post from mr Resin. Don't You have anything to do?
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Re: New Support Unit Type

Postby Resin_Smoker » 27 Feb 2014, 06:51

necxelos wrote:a) Stick this accusation where sun doesn't reach Resin.
b) Where in this topic I said I will do it? This is suggestion section so I'm giving an idea for someone to realize.
c) Another highly constructive and usefull post from mr Resin. Don't You have anything to do?


1) Prove me wrong and create something instead of dictating to others. I really doubt you could make something original if it involved anything more than just copy and paste.
2) Who are you to give anything to anyone "to realize"? What you did or claim to of done elsewhere means all of d!ck here. Please, realize this and humble yourself.
3) Your posts are pointless as there is no one to make what your describing unless you count myself and like two others.
4) The "other" modders and "contributors" will definitely tell you to fook-off. This is assuming they've bothered to read any of the crap you've posted.
5) I'm really surprised that you still have an account considering how disrespectful you've been to the community. I saw the incident with ZP and was just waiting for the hammer to fall. (Disappointed to say the least)
6) While I'm not openly attacking you (yet) I am calling you out in the slim hope that you'll receive this as a wake up call and stop behaving like an arse.
7) As for having better things to do... I'm sat on the shitter and though it to be the perfect moment to respond to you.

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