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Postby Masyaka » 15 Jul 2016, 08:07

IM not a complete newbie in supcom, but when i go search for a lobby every asks for 1K lobbies + 0 CPU (meanwhile my is 450 :cry: ) Where im gonna farm all these 1k+ battles and buy another 12-core japaneese PROcessor?
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Re: newbies cant go anywhere - special server for newbies?

Postby biass » 15 Jul 2016, 08:55

host your own games ggwp
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Re: newbies cant go anywhere - special server for newbies?

Postby CookieNoob » 15 Jul 2016, 09:03

first of all: welcome to FAF!

to the cpu thing: a cpu rating of 450 is really high, which indicates that your processor is too slow for games on larger maps that potentially go on for longer than 5 minutes... Therfore the game will slow down drastically for the other players (as for you) and become a slideshow very quickly. Especially teamgames with a lot of players involved tend to feature a lot of units. What you can do about this: get a better cpu. Not necessairy to get one with 12 cores, because FA only uses one core, but one with high single thread performance (for FA the best cpu is on top of this list https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html). Or avoid playing games with lots of players, however a 450 cpu rating could limit you to 1v1, if you dont want to drop to negative SIM-speed in the first 20 minutes.

to the rating thing: host your own games, you decide who plays there and what the balance will be. With 0 rating, you could be a FA-god or a super-newby therefore it is impossible to balance you appropriate. You could also join "all welcome" games. "all welcome" usually (or better: sometimes) means that everyone is welcome. Alternatively you could play custom 1v1 games (not ladder, this wont increase your gamecount) to farm some rating and then join teamgames.

Edit: it is true that FA uses a second core for some minor calculations and having two cores is better for the game than one. HOWEVER, if you look at the list of CPUs I linked, you will most likely not find a singlecore CPU in the top 300.. and if you go that far down the list it makes no sence to get it anyway.
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Re: newbies cant go anywhere - special server for newbies?

Postby Masyaka » 15 Jul 2016, 13:10

i've joined "noobs" room, "kicked by lobby host" :?:
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Re: newbies cant go anywhere - special server for newbies?

Postby biass » 15 Jul 2016, 13:17

it's because people are scared about smurfs n stuff because its a common thing to blame for losing

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Re: newbies cant go anywhere - special server for newbies?

Postby BushMaster » 16 Jul 2016, 00:48

SirTobi60 wrote:to the cpu thing: a cpu rating of 450 is really high, which indicates that your processor is too slow for games on larger maps that potentially go on for longer than 5 minutes...
Simply false. Not only does it depend on the reason the cpu is rated 450 (many people still don't get appropriate ratings, and power saving modes will often cause this), but an appropriately rated cpu at 450 is not that slow. To the OP, I recommend watching replays of games you wish to play to gauge your cpu's performance and if the rating is even appropriate.



SirTobi60 wrote:What you can do about this: get a better cpu. Not necessairy to get one with 12 cores, because FA only uses one core, but one with high single thread performance
Honestly, people need to stop saying FA uses one core. Yes FA performance will predominately depend on the performance of a single core (the one running the sim thread), so yes single thread performance is important, but FA still uses at least two cores if available (i cant verify if it actually does "remotely" anything with any additional cores). 2 cores is still greater than 1 core with FA, but more cores will likely not benefit FA. This misinformation must stop.
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Re: newbies cant go anywhere - special server for newbies?

Postby TheKoopa » 16 Jul 2016, 02:50

BushMaster wrote:
SirTobi60 wrote:to the cpu thing: a cpu rating of 450 is really high, which indicates that your processor is too slow for games on larger maps that potentially go on for longer than 5 minutes...
Simply false. Not only does it depend on the reason the cpu is rated 450 (many people still don't get appropriate ratings, and power saving modes will often cause this), but an appropriately rated cpu at 450 is not that slow. To the OP, I recommend watching replays of games you wish to play to gauge your cpu's performance and if the rating is even appropriate.



SirTobi60 wrote:What you can do about this: get a better cpu. Not necessairy to get one with 12 cores, because FA only uses one core, but one with high single thread performance
Honestly, people need to stop saying FA uses one core. Yes FA performance will predominately depend on the performance of a single core (the one running the sim thread), so yes single thread performance is important, but FA still uses at least two cores if available (i cant verify if it actually does "remotely" anything with any additional cores). 2 cores is still greater than 1 core with FA, but more cores will likely not benefit FA. This misinformation must stop.


Wrong and wrong. I have played with 450 rating cpus before and they are never, ever good and go into negative sim speed extremely quick. As for cores, the majority of everything is on one core, and some miscellaneous, unimportant stuff on the second.
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Re: newbies cant go anywhere - special server for newbies?

Postby Masyaka » 16 Jul 2016, 08:35

Slowdown can be overriden by game speed adjust till game will be likely not slowed down. It causes an FPS drop (for me), not sure if some cunt hunts for 300 FPS in RTS games... :|

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Re: newbies cant go anywhere - special server for newbies?

Postby biass » 16 Jul 2016, 08:47

with with t2 kfc is literally every sera plan ever soz :P
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Re: newbies cant go anywhere - special server for newbies?

Postby Lieutenant Lich » 16 Jul 2016, 15:01

1) I have >450 CPU rating. I can take on games with <=6 players.
2) On smurfs: yes, there's that thing, I have encountered it as a green noob. But well, as you play people will get to know you. Nothing helps vs. an autistic host though :D , so keep that in mind. All welcome games usually accept zeros because those that host "all welcome"s are not far from 0 themselves. Then there are games specifically titled "noobs only". When you come in, if host is normal, they'll let you play. If not... host your own game because there you are the boss.
3) Special server for noobs will solve nothing.
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