What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

[mirroredwang]

Sure, you could still tell by sound and sight what projectiles units are firing at your mexes, but you can finally conquer silently mexes and hydros like a real human bean. People thought about t2/t3 mex hp, i think its not the only stat that can be tinkered with.

Inspiration comes of course from Age of Empires, where buildings have no real vision too, unless you build t1 "watchtowers"

[Zock]

Sounds interesting, but it might be frustrating if your buildings die and you don't notice it?

[mirroredwang]

Dunno how to design it (hah) but the point is that you always hear your stuff being shot (maybe display projectiles to know exactly what hits the mex, thats what i mean with "minimal" vision)

you dont notice as easily your stuff getting captured/reclaimed by engineers. also better runbys of units (landscouts more important, even to beginning midgame) and you can play around with a hold fire acu

[Myxir]

as an extreme example, playing roanoke 1v1. it's quite famous to use a transport, drop engies on the four small islands next to the map edge near the other player's starting island, and capture those mexies. i can assure you, it's already super hard to notice that one, even less vision would be horrible here

[mirroredwang]

as an extreme example, playing roanoke 1v1. it's quite famous to use a transport, drop engies on the four small islands next to the map edge near the other player's starting island, and capture those mexies. i can assure you, it's already super hard to notice that one, even less vision would be horrible here

Yeah but thats my point, encouraging more scouting

Scouting ftw

[Aulex]

as an extreme example, playing roanoke 1v1. it's quite famous to use a transport, drop engies on the four small islands next to the map edge near the other player's starting island, and capture those mexies. i can assure you, it's already super hard to notice that one, even less vision would be horrible here

Yeah but thats my point, encouraging more scouting

Scouting ftw

I feel like this would just encourage radars everywhere and total awareness, which is good, but not that realistic and may just make the gameplay more frustrating for lower rated players

[mirroredwang]

much like walls have no vision either, but you can still easily discern whats firing at it

[briang]

No thanks. I don't see how this improves gameplay at all.

[yeager]

I see some positives, but they don't put way the negatives here. Also if it was like this when I was a 600 there would have been a lot of keyboard smashing and rage quitting.

[Morax]

T2 mex also has omni sensor gg no re