In game ping display?

[bunkerbuster]

Can you bring back pings in number form for game lobbies? Would better the quality of the gaming experience if you could spot ping spiking in the lobby, and other signs of potential lag. Lag free games is a wonder, but pretty rare, at least in 4v4 or bigger games at certain times of the day and ones that welcome noobs.

Also, can you do something about "normal" pings being color coded yellow in actual games? Being called a lagger merely for living far away, such as west coast US to Europe getting a 200-250 ping, is rude. People should think that's normal, but when it's lagging and they see a yellow colored ping, they start pointing fingers.

Might as well always make the network stats window show when the eject window is open. If there were a mod that pointed out the laggers for sure, that would be a great help too, as I'm frustrated by people playing the blame game and laggers denying it, ruining the experience even more.

[DeimosEvotec]

Ping under 500ms are irrelevant since the game always waits that long for all packages:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6669&p=65334&hilit=connection+netlag#p65334
and are no lnger displayed:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6747&hilit=lag+indicator
Package loss is the important figure, that causes netlag.

[bunkerbuster]

Ping spiking can be caused by packet loss. It can spike from 50 to 250 and still cause a freeze/stutter. It doesn't have to spike above 500+ to lag. A 500+ ping player merely causes perma slow-mo, as if you lowered the game speed -2 or -3. Stutter for all and slow down for all... both lag, both undesirable.

Also, there's no way to tell if someone is 500+ to another person. In a 4v4, there's 28 different unique connections, and each player only sees 7 pings, the pings from each other player to them. It could be an Aussie that has a 600ms ping to another Aussie due to being on the proxy. Both of those Aussies could be 300ms to you, but you will suffer from the slowdown.

[speed2]

ren_ShowNetworkStats in console and you will see whos lagging, you can bind a key for it

[bunkerbuster]

Already know about that, but not everyone does, nor do people know how to interpret it, hence why I said this:

Might as well always make the network stats window show when the eject window is open. If there were a mod that pointed out the laggers for sure, that would be a great help too, as I'm frustrated by people playing the blame game and laggers denying it, ruining the experience even more.

I'm more interested in preventing the problem of getting lag immediately after the game starts... if the laggers can be identified in the lobby, that would save the majority from a lot of grief and frustration.

[speed2]

The thing is you wont see this in lobby

[bunkerbuster]

That's cause ping isn't visible. If you can see ping spiking or abnormally high for their location, that's a huge hint.

People already tolerate people who have trouble connecting to others... that seems strange to me as someone that wants a lag free game. If they're tolerated, they won't see it's a problem and won't try and fix/improve it.

[Zoram]

That's cause ping isn't visible. If you can see ping spiking or abnormally high for their location, that's a huge hint.

People already tolerate people who have trouble connecting to others... that seems strange to me as someone that wants a lag free game. If they're tolerated, they won't see it's a problem and won't try and fix/improve it.

Obviously the people you're talking about suffer as well from their bad connections and dont "fix it" because they dont know how or just plain can't do anything about it.

It happens to me sometimes that my ISP fucks up and I randomly have bad connection for a while. I can't know in advance it'll happen in the middle of a game, and people getting on their high horses about it doesn't change a thing.

[speed2]

You dont need to see those spikes in lobby since there are almost no data flying around

[bunkerbuster]

You dont need to see those spikes in lobby since there are almost no data flying around

If their ping is spiking from alt-tabbing and watching YouTube or are pirating something, that's a sign that their connection isn't that great and risks the quality of game. Some people seem to not be fully joking when they tell others to stop DLing porn...