Sera Campaign option removed

[yeager]

So i found some mods that allow you to play through the aeon/uef/cybrans fa campaign as sera, but now that the new update is here it seems i cant do that because the option to choose sera has been removed, is there anyother way to play sera in campaign? could we add in a mod that allows you to play aeon fa campaign as sera or something?

[speed2]

Its not possible right now in coop. I complined already to Chris that there might be some future Seraphim missions, well he said that it can be changed later.

[yeager]

....later..... thats disappointing

[speed2]

I ll make an issue on github

[ckitching]

The existing campaign missions are kinda broken when you play as Seraphim. There's no dialogue for the Seraphim, and there're no unit restrictions for them, so they get an unfair advantage (which sort of breaks our leaderboards). And of course the story makes no sense at all, either.

Clearly, we can change this if someone ever makes a Seraphim campaign, but they haven't yet, so we won't.

[yeager]

No offense, but that makes 0 sense, your saying that since it doesnt work well we are going to remove it despite the fact that removing it leaves a negative effect on the community. which do you think players will prefer? playing a non sera specific campaign or not playing campaign as sera at all?

Its not possible right now in coop. I complined already to Chris that there might be some future Seraphim missions, well he said that it can be changed later.

thx

[ckitching]

No offense, but that makes 0 sense, your saying that since it doesnt work well we are going to remove it despite the fact that removing it leaves a negative effect on the community. which do you think players will prefer? playing a non sera specific campaign or not playing campaign as sera at all?

Its not possible right now in coop. I complined already to Chris that there might be some future Seraphim missions, well he said that it can be changed later.

thx

That's not really what I said. Look carefully, and find the part about how it breaks the leaderboards.

If one faction can play with the whole tech-tree while everyone else has storyline-defined unit restrictions in place, the game ceases to be balanced.

When playing as the Seraphim, all the dialogue is broken (there's no factional dialogue for that race), so someone who hasn't seen it all before is likely to be confused about what's going on. This is a bad user experience, and will probably lead to a feeling that "coop is broken".

I don't object in particular to playing as the Seraphim. If you desperately want this, here is your to-do list:
- Dialogue text/audio for every campaign mission for the Seraphim. Bonus points for twiddling with the story while you're doing this so it makes a bit of sense (maybe you're a Seraphim who defected and came to help the other factions out or something, make appropriate banter, similarly to how the other races do internally).
- Add unit restrictions for the Seraphim equivalent to those applied to the other races to every campaign mission. Bonus points for adding some "event unlocks" for certain missions (as happens throughout the campaign, such as that point in the FA campaign where the Cybran are sent the blueprint for mobile bombs in the middle of a mission). Care must be taken here to make sure this doesn't bugger up the balance too horribly.

Alternatively:

- New campaign missions designed for the Seraphim, which will of course be playable as the Seraphim (though the existing missions won't be so)

[speed2]

https://github.com/FAForever/fa-coop/issues/19
There isnt really any good reason to bad this mod and restrict seraphim

[yeager]

let's look at who your helping here: the 3 people who do coop competitively, the 1 guy who always plays sera and rage quits cause of random small bug.
Let's look at who you are hurting: anyone and everyone who wants to play sera.

[yeager]

And to reply to your git comment: the community DID make more for sera campaign but none of them work now that the option is removed, screwing over all the hard work.