Help with 1v1 Cybran vs Aeon

[NodCommander]

Hey guys,

Im quite a newbie still. I always play Cybran myself, and I struggle really badly against Aeon on 1v1.

I know how to deal with microed Auroras, but its what comes after that which stumps me every single time: Obsidians. How do I deal with these HP-monsters? Nothing I have at this point of the game seems effective against them. I can sorta hold them off with large numbers of Rhinos (And if the map isnt flat, then...), but after a while the enemy just goes to T3 and Harbringers and Im instantly dead.

Im doing something wrong obviously, but I cant figure out a proper strategy... Could really use some suggestions in general!

[NewForumAccount]

The weakness of Obsidians is their range. Rhinos can kite them easily if they're supported by medusas (medusa support is very important for Rhinos in any matchup).
If your opponent rushes for T3 (common Aeon tactic), you need to OC them while getting your own T3. Harrassing their T3 production (bomb buildpower) will give you more time to bring out your superior Cybran T3.

[Vee]

Mix in lots of medusas. LOTS. They stun them, they have good damage, and they let the obsidians waste their 480 dmg shots on 140 hp units. Against harbs you need bricks.

Both of them can also be overcharged with a (gun) acu, but that's risky of course.

[NodCommander]

Hmm. Okay, thanks for the tips.

What about Mantis, do I cease production of them once I see Obsidians?

[Nombringer]

Well normally you want medusa's but having t1 mixed in helps a lot as the obsidian's waste shots on them

[Vee]

Mantis is useless vs t2 IMO. As soon as I see t2 I stop producing t1 tanks.

[ZLO_RD]

Well if you ask me, i would say that i love to kill t1 with obsidians, obsidians are so frontloaded, and usually not miss so that t1 tank does not even gets chance to shoot more than once...

i think you need t2 or even more than just t2 to stop obsidians
2333164 i was making only obsidians and then decided to attack at min 14 or so, cause i was loosing to hard, i had to attack, you can see result

Spoiler: show

one shot away from killing t2 transport

[ColonelSheppard]

The weakness of Obsidians is their range. Rhinos can kite them easily.

I agree with almost all here but i think kiting is hardly the right word with Obsidian 20 range and rhino 23..

[Ithilis_Quo]

Obsidian have huge problem against ACU. Thay are slow, and have short range, that mean when atack thay are in small cone and can be owerchaed in groupf for 2-3 for one OC.

When you dont want to go with acu, because too risky. Then use medusas, thay have emp and you ruin them with another units. Because obsidians are slow, you can easy hit them with EMP.

or you can simply make more units. Obsidian is strongest T2 units, but also most expensive.
Rhino have 85dps 23 range and 1900hp and cost 300 mass
Obsidian have 120dps 20 range and 2750hp but cost 360+37,5 = +-400 mass (37,5 is for build haft T1 pgen because shield consume -10e)

when you take it together with much more owerkill that rhino you can compare it and would see that make Rhino with medusa is stronger as obsidians Comparing is here:

2750:85 (x1,25) = 25s
1900x1,25 (25%bigger price) :120 =19s

Another effective way is try Hoplite with stealth, but this need micro. Hotlite are cheap, fast and have nearly 2x bigger range as obsidians, you would only retread them and you win. But you need bigger place for do this.

Best way is make Gun on acu, and OC them all.

[Aulex]

Hoplites and stealth can be deadly, you just have to micro a lot and not let them get hit by bombers. If your opponent goes range and omni on the com, get some t2 pd, get gun on your own com, attack where his com isn't.