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Ganking

Postby The Hoff » 15 May 2014, 08:17

Beating up on the new players. What are the rules. If a player with 0 games and 0 rating comes in here and joins an under 700 game. Then proceeds to do a pretty good job of killing the whole opposition claiming he's never played and its his first game while leading the whole game in score and economy what to do?
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Re: Ganking

Postby Aurion » 15 May 2014, 10:01

The Hoff wrote:Beating up on the new players. What are the rules. If a player with 0 games and 0 rating comes in here and joins an under 700 game. Then proceeds to do a pretty good job of killing the whole opposition claiming he's never played and its his first game while leading the whole game in score and economy what to do?


Report it. I don't think it's always clear that a player is smurfing (old GPGnet player, only 1v1 games etc.), but if it happens more often for that player he/she might get banned.
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Re: Ganking

Postby ColonelSheppard » 15 May 2014, 10:28

The Hoff wrote:Beating up on the new players. What are the rules. If a player with 0 games and 0 rating comes in here and joins an under 700 game. Then proceeds to do a pretty good job of killing the whole opposition claiming he's never played and its his first game while leading the whole game in score and economy what to do?

Well, most people tend to overreact when they get ownd by something who they think shouldn't be able to do it. 700 is not that high, so maybe he had a good game/played on GPG/watched tutorials before playing. I'd say deal with it, or keep an eye on him. You can talk to a modrator though, but i don't think there will happen much because of one game.
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Re: Ganking

Postby The Hoff » 15 May 2014, 19:17

Guy was rated 0 with 0 games, had T3 Power generator at 2 minutes and was pumping out T3 bombers. My bro said to report it too.
I'm new on here and hes been training me he said I'm ready for online play now. It is hard to find a game for new players. So I make one and I make one for purpose of new players to play new players but I do not think this was new player.

I like to build tanks and ABs. He says I only get to build 100 tanks but everybody on here says I can build unlimited so I like that better.
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Re: Ganking

Postby ZLO_RD » 15 May 2014, 20:19

1) if you want tell / show / explain what he did just give replay, because maybe he cheated, maybe cheats were "on", and tons of other "maybe"
If you are low skill player i will not rely on your opinion about someone being skilled, but replay will prove to me, also we will be able to see his APM
2) we have rating system, if he gonna continue winnig his rating will eventually rise
if he will attmept to keep his rating lower th atit is, he will be banned if someone will notice and report properly
3) if he have 0 games and 0 rating maybe he is just good player that just started playing again
but as he said he is new, maybe he lied, so i personally have no idea what to do in that case, cause i doubt you can easily prevent people from continuosly creating new accounts

!! First of all post replay please
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then double click on dates to expand and you will eventually find right replay,
then right click on replay and click open in explorer,
then give us numbers from replay name or just upload replay itself (second is better cause online replay can be corrupted)
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Re: Ganking

Postby The Hoff » 16 May 2014, 05:25

It is only my perspective. Being new. But it is hard enough to get a good game balanced for new players and low ranking players so when 0-0 comes in and rips it up really sucks. It is also hard to not get kicked from games when you first start. Until you are ranked 500 nobody wants you in any games.
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Re: Ganking

Postby ZLO_RD » 16 May 2014, 06:57

if someone have 0 games his rating is actually kinda "undefined" because if he didn't play, we have no idea if he is any good or not, so if someone has low amount of games it is kinda same: lower game count -> more innacurate rating is.
And some players are only good on some type of maps, or even worse, only goon on only one spot on the map, that is also makes rating innacurate, cause player have spiking skill level.
And that is probably why it is harder to balance games on low level...

btw i still would like to see replay, and how someone got t3 power at min 2, cause that definately sounds like cheating
making factory is 30 sec, each engyneer 12 sec, each t1 power generator is 12 sec with acu, each mass extractor is 6 sec with acu and 12 sec with engyneer.... yep, haveing t3 power at min 2 only possible with some really game-changing mods or with cheats
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Re: Ganking

Postby Deering » 16 May 2014, 10:29

Went through history, replay ID is 2195739. He has definitely played before but didn't cheat and wasn't hugely better. Was Gap of Wonder so air players just eco'd. Hoffs air player also got T3 air around the same time but didnt use it efficiently (was rated 300). Very well could just be someone from gpgnet or steam.
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Re: Ganking

Postby Mephi » 16 May 2014, 16:41

i have watched the replay and in my opinion he is only a good beginner who learned from casts

he has basic knowledge about the game but does things and mistakes a player who already played in FAF a while would not do
p.E. surounding t1 mexes with storages etc.

but he has a good playstyle(helping team etc.) and how it seems better behavour than you
i hope he stayed in FaF despite your insults and bad behaviour
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Re: Ganking

Postby The Hoff » 22 May 2014, 04:46

Oh right so its my fault that its tough as shit for new players on here. And you guys are running a good ole boys club. Yeah must be. I guess the rest of the team sorta took offense to it after the game since it was a declared noobs game. But ur totally right. My fault. As always.

Must be why only those with clout get their issues investigated and the rest of us get moderated. Teamkilled because were a few hundred lower than those pros on here. And nobody does jack about that. But nooob forbid to toss an insult back after one is leveled or return the fire when its given.

Totally right. My bro was right about you guys. Can't hold a candle to Star Craft competition so you build a big wall around this group of oldies and dont discipline anybody on here unless they egregiously violate the rules. Not sure but is calling poeple a nigger against he law here? Got that today. Few weeks back same shit, and teamkilled, guy used a STRAT NUKE to TK me, not a TML but a STRAT NUKE the first one he launched.

Killed me lost us the game. Thats not against the rules then. But today after asking for and repeatedly not getting cooperation... I was then told to STFU by another player. So I take him out of the game so I could access his mass and get the support our team needed then its an issue with the high command. This is then a moderator issue.

But ur right. My fault for saying anything or bringing it up.

Meanwhile you got all this fresh blood in here and they are getting used and abused by this community and boom they are gone. And so is the life of our group in a few months if that be the case.

I raised these issues when I was a 0-0 player. Now I'm 700 and 40 games in and its like what right does that give players rated 1k+ to be like this?
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