Sera rush

[jmd3au1]

A guy builds factory, sets waypoint into your base and starts spamming zthuees. Everything, including his comm is heading towards you, while you happily build some soon-to-be-destroyed buildings.

By the time you realize what is going on, he reclaims your facs with his comm, destroys your power with arty and then retreats back, GG.

Any idea how to counter these crazy Seraphim rushes..? Even if I scout him, there is not much i can do.

I wont attach any replays here, they are too embarassing

[RoLa]

If you mean your game against Commander_Adama he just played a bit better. He reclaimed a bit better and he used his ACU a bit better. While he had radar coverage which you could easily destroy with one bomber you had no radar. That could have saved your ACUs ass.

[lextoc]

On small maps always try to send first scout to enemy base/reclaim points, I often forget it myself

[Swkoll]

Sera t1 arty rush is fairly common at lower levels of play. What you need to do is dodge the arty with your acu and tanks and try to set up factories with any surviving engis, including expanding ones. If possible you want to flank the reinforcing artys with your tanks. Make sure your acu is shooting the arty at all times.

[ZLO_RD]

dodge artyes,
if youre aeon you will have hard time, but you have good t1 tanks
if youre uef you will have hard time, but you have good t1 tanks
if youre cybran you will have hard time, but you can make rhino+medusa or hoplite + stealth and harras with jesters
just remember that rhino+medusa looses to ilshavoh+zthuees eventually, especially with micro, and hoplites+stealth wins against ilshavohs but very slowly, you will have to kite really alot and pay attansion alot...

ever seen how good players deal with mass medusa? do same against sera arty, just try make your units in kind of one line all the way around enemy forces, create as bigger concave as possible, that will reduse arty splash possibilites, if map not allows that youre in trouble, may try to use bombers against arty...

acu upgraide works ok against artys, but most maps have multiple ways to your base so that will help you buy time

any game where i tryed to go for very fast t2 land as cyb i end with dead acu just when i just started to mass nice army =\
offtopic

Spoiler: show

how sera can counter t2 hoplite spam? acu gun, t2 pds, t1 bombers, t3 arty (t3 tanks actually may fail)

if sera schoose to use acu try to avoid it as much as you can and use terrain+ meduas to stop acu from pushing, and try get some t2 pds..

if sera goes for t2 pds (sera have great t2 pds they rape hopelites if you not pay attansion )
just add mmls, cyb have best mmls

If sera use t1 bombers just get radar and t2 flack, that is probably least micro intencive way to counter it, when you see bombers, you just dodge them with hoplites or spread out, or send ints... usually patrol ints or keep them in from of army is usually impossible cause enemy would have some aa and maybe even t2 aa already, and you will have to pay alot attansion to ints and move them each time when you move army, and bombers can approuch from diff angles
basicly i just saying that you can't prevent them from coming to your army and better just geet flack and dodge/spread out

If sera goes t3 land you will loose your t2 army to 2-3 t3 arty shots or loose all hoplites cause of missmicro against t3 tanks, but t3 land is expencive and if your opponent got it i have no idea what you were doing while all that was happening

[Reaper Zwei]

I think jmd3au1 is describing something along the lines of what sheppard does in this video just with seraphim and arty instead of aeon and flares:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atK_VUgVEjI

[Coffee nut]

Not to hijack your thread, but I think jmd3au1 meant something like this...

(As you can tell I embarrassingly didn't handle it very well either....)

[jmd3au1]

Not to hijack your thread, but I think jmd3au1 meant something like this...

(As you can tell I embarrassingly didn't handle it very well either....)

Yes. Same player, same situation, happened to me yesterday. I tried to struggle for another 15 minutes, but then I just rage-quitted with AltF4.

The new matchmaker system, as brilliant as it is, made this strategy more exploitable then ever before. People pick all 5x5 and 10x10 maps, and then rape. Worst case scenario for them is draw. There were quite a few Aeon aurora rushers, but this is faaar worse, and IMO very cheap way to farm rating.

[Gorton]

Like most cases, this can be spotted and dealt with by simply making a scout 3rd or 4th and sending it slightly wide so it won't get killed by likely positions for acu / defending tanks.
I can only say that : Scout -> follow Swkoll's idea

[jmd3au1]

Sera t1 arty rush is fairly common at lower levels of play. What you need to do is dodge the arty with your acu and tanks and try to set up factories with any surviving engis, including expanding ones. If possible you want to flank the reinforcing artys with your tanks. Make sure your acu is shooting the arty at all times.

Yes, that seems to work. One more thing Id like to add is "dont panic".

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