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floaty flak + hover arty spam - counter?

Postby Lionhardt » 08 Sep 2013, 17:06

So, I played a 1v1 on Roanoke. My oponent (Sera) spammed t1 arty with t2 flag. I had air superiority and he kind of naval superiority which I was barely able to keep under control with torp bombers. Neither could I use gunships nor destroyers to counter this t1 + t2 spam. Slowly I lost naval completely due to the increasing numbers of t2 flak that protected his ships. So how are you supposed to counter this?

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Re: floaty flak + hover arty spam - counter?

Postby Gorton » 08 Sep 2013, 17:35

While I have not watched the replay, you don't counter hover with destroyers, you counter it with frigates.
Massed frigates. Frigates building from about 5 factories.
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Re: floaty flak + hover arty spam - counter?

Postby Lionhardt » 08 Sep 2013, 17:39

Ok, but as I said, he had naval superiority with Sera t3 subs... plus a few times he had even t2 hover tanks in the composition, which would have denied the frigates, I guess?
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Re: floaty flak + hover arty spam - counter?

Postby Gorton » 08 Sep 2013, 17:52

I mean, earlier on, you could destroy all of his floaty stuff with frigates. Then the next scenario doesn't happen.
I believe frigs also counter floaty tanks too.


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Re: floaty flak + hover arty spam - counter?

Postby Lionhardt » 08 Sep 2013, 18:15

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Re: floaty flak + hover arty spam - counter?

Postby Gorton » 08 Sep 2013, 18:23

I do think frigs are your best bet vs arty and hover units in general. They will also absorb fire from the destroyers of your opponent and later, the subs.
If he submerges anything you can use your t2 tanks and they can't be hit by torps at all so they will destroy his hover units
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Re: floaty flak + hover arty spam - counter?

Postby ColonelSheppard » 08 Sep 2013, 19:04

You went coopers only if you would have scouted you would have seen that he had no navy at all at minute 15, he howerver saw that you only have coopers and built hovertanks

this game shows nothing, except that you should:
a)
scout
b)
not go coopers only
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Re: floaty flak + hover arty spam - counter?

Postby Gorton » 08 Sep 2013, 19:07

Sheppard: I said I did not watch, but frigates are a counter to hover units such as t1 arty.
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Re: floaty flak + hover arty spam - counter?

Postby ColonelSheppard » 08 Sep 2013, 19:42

Gorton wrote:Sheppard: I said I did not watch, but frigates are a counter to hover units such as t1 arty.

ok ok ..

anyways his only problem was that coopers obviously are not able to fire on hovertanks
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Re: floaty flak + hover arty spam - counter?

Postby Lionhardt » 09 Sep 2013, 00:00

Ok thx... so you are implying that there is no direct counter but not letting this situation arise in the first place, which in this case would have been by building frigates to deny his navy more effectively before he could get out that unit composition that apparently cannot be countered effectively anymore, once it is on the field?
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