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Postby Destructor » 21 Sep 2012, 22:06

BRS_DESTRUCTOR…
21/09/2012… Rio Verde, Goiás, Brazil, South America.

I Hate noobs, version 1.0.

Sorry by my English, i’m a Brazilian guy, but i like to teach and I hate some kind of noobs, they never grow up, they have more than 200 matches and are still noob, they never upgrade his strategies, always do the same mistakes, always do the same thing.
So, I will try to teach some basic moves and strategies to you, FUCKING NOOB, who don’t listen your partners and always made a couple of mistakes on this beautiful game, just shut up and learn something.

Listen… Pay attention… u will get better with this tips.

To Know the game:

PDT1 = Point Defense Tech 1
PDT2 = Point Defense Tech 2
AA = Anti Air
TML = Tactical Missile Launcher
TMD = Tactical Missile defense
PGEN = Power Generator
OC = OVERCHARGE (5000 Energy, 12000 Damage, 3#U)
#U = Used area of ONE single PGEN T1.
MEX = Mass Extractor
DPS = Damage per Second


PRO TIPS:

The CAKE IS A LIE… U don’t have any bonus to build factories near mexes, it’s a bug, it’s always keep your mexes to build mass storages.
Mass is essential, sometimes more essential than energy, reclaim everything faster than u can with SHIFT + ALT + HIT MOUSE (DON’T USE PATROL TO ENGS), u will see a RED LINE on the map.
FIRST LAND FACTORIE WILL JUST MAKE ENGS ALL GAME, REPEAT… ALL TEAM GAME, build 30 t1 engs, upgrade t2, build at least 15 engs t2, first eng t2 build TMD, others Pgens t2, PDT2, AAT2.
Land factories is faster to build engs.

In some maps, u have a good spots with a lot of mass wreckages, look this places while your acu is building your first factory (30 seconds to do it), they are usual to upgrade your first, second or third mass extractor.

U always will be upgrading at least one mex. Since 2 minutes of the team match, u must to start to upgrade your mexes. If u are with a couple of engs reclaiming mass for trees, rocks, and other kind of wreckeage, trust me, u are doing the right thing even u are on negative production.

The wreckages of ALL UNITS save 90% of mass if u reclaim it. I say 90%.
Sooo, if your enemy are killed some unit, NEVER BUILD the same thing on that wreckage, if u build with this, u saves 50% of the mass. It’s more difficult to get mass, no energy, and if u have engineers, u will build another unit very fast with 90% of mass than just 50%
MEX T2 (36+900M) = Saves 810
MEX T3 (36+900+4800M ) = Saves 4320
It’s the same logical system to every unit.

Another good tip… Don’t build T2 mexes with ENGs… NEVER.
build T1(36M/6 seconds to build), hit upgrade to upgrade, while u are upgrading to t2, u are producing mass. Usually u save more than 150 of mass. Just build direct T3

Scout your enemy every 2 minutes.

USUAL TIPS:
1º Your ACU NEVER BE IDLE, almost in every map, u must to go to the middle to protect your territory. Acu is always doing something, fighting, building, upgrading herself, fighting again. But he is not have an ENGINEER JOB, ACU don’t assist factories, ACU don’t assist mexes upgrades, if he is building something, this building is a PDT1, PDT2, SHIELDS, AA, TML, TMD, in resume, units to fight against other units.
ACU do 100DPS with his main gun, and have 11500 – 12000HP, soo he can kill easily T1 units (140 – 300)HP.
Overcharde (hot key = O) do 13000 damage in a small area of damage, it’s a good way to kill a couple of units with a single shoot.

2º Don’t build everything on the same place. On the beginning of the game, is more easily to destroy all of your PGENS if they are near each other, your enemy can use a couple of bombers, a single drop of units, tactical missile launchers.

3º U are noob? Don’t play with CYBRANS or AEONS.
They are to good players, they must need a lot of micromanagement, they are weak to face another ACU because they have low HP than Seraphin and UEF, and remember, u are a noob, u don’t have any rights to disagree

4º NEVER move your acu without a radar to watch the territory. Build a lot of RADARS, noobs don’t like radars, I don’t know why!!! A single UEF ACU can hold 18 t1 medium tanks, 24 with T2 upgrade, 27-35 with t2 and Gun upgrade.

5º NEVER use ATTACK move to attack an ACU, if your enemy is running, your units will get range, stoop, shoot… So, move again to do the same thing.
The units usually will be near to each other with this movement, so it’s very easy to use OC to kill more than 5 units with a single shoot.
MOVE your units around your enemy, u can close his passage, it’s more difficult to him to use overcharge, soo, much better to kill your enemy.

6º NEVER build anything around mexes, except mass storages, they gave to u 50% of mass production. Soo, upgrade your mex T1 > T2 (900M), and build mexes around.
Don’t be stupid, t1 produces (+2), if u spent on mass storages (200 each X 4 = 800) around them, u gave just (+1). With the same mass you upgrade to t2 to produces (+6), later with mass storages (+9).

7º NEVER forgot your ACU IDDLE.
8º NEVER forgor your ACU IDDLE.

9º A good way to upgrade your mexes is very simple, with this move, u could focus on the battle. Select a single t1 mex (don’t be upgrading), press CTRL + Z (To select all of the same selected unit). Now, all of them is selected, HIT UPGRADE, wait 1 second, HIT PAUSE (||). Now u can use a couple of ENGS to assist the upgrade, when the upgrade finishes, your eng will go to assist next MEX. U can HIT UNPAUSE on a single selected mex to accelerate the upgrade sometimes.

10º Learn with some friend HOW TO BUILD TEMPLATES, u will use this TEMPLATE every time on the game. MAIN TEMPLATES:
MEX STORAGES = To set around mexes
PDT1 WITH WALLs = It’s good to hold ACUs, because with walls ACU just hit a PDT1 with OVERCHARGEs.

11º Your mass production will be ALWAYS NEGATIVE, if u are keeping for something, u are WRONG. U forgot to upgrade something, U forgot to upgrade your ACU, u forgot to build more factories, u forgot to build more energy to air production, U ARE A NOOB.

12º After reclaim every rock, tree, wreckage in your main base, your idles enginners will go assist air factorys or assist ENGT2 who is producing your first or second PGENT2, TMD.

13º Your acu spent 1.30 minutes to upgrade T2 (24000E 800M) or GUN (22000E 800M) alone, long time to wait, long time to be stooped in a fixed place. U can’t use Overcharge while u are upgrading, u don’t move while u are upgrading, your enemy can use a lot of arty t1 (600DPS), Tatical missile laucher (6000DPS), bombers T2(1200DPS)… so…. Always to make an upgrade on your acu, u must to be on a safe place with a couple of engs to assist your acu.
Your 7º eng will build at least 4 Energy storages, when u are full of energy, upgrade your ACU with more than 4 engs.
This two main upgrades (T2 and gun) must be done in less than 20 seconds each one when u are on the middle, sooo u must have ENERGY and ENGs to assist your ACU. Sometimes u can HIT PAUSE in all of your factories to save mass to make the upgrade more faster, belive me, u need to upgrade fast.

14º Stoop to do the same mistakes… Think… It’s more difficult to kill units on the middle of the map or inside de main base??
On the middle is the place to war, not to build any kind of mass or energy production
Soooo… STOOOOOOOOOOOP to build PGENT1, PGEN T2, Energy storages, AIR FACTORIES, on the middle. If your enemy can BREAK your defenses, u will lose mass, energy and a lot time.

15º Noobs loves so much engineering stations and fixed t2 artillery, u just build this kind of unit afer u have ALL MEXES on T3, they cost a lot to be builded before a strongest economy.
T2 FIXED ARTY (2200M) have a high cost and low DPS, it’s very rare good players build it, usually we use to protect naval islands against ships or to hold FATBOYS.

16º U must to know the main HOT KEYS…
CTRL + L = Land War units
CTRL + A = All air units
CTRL + Z = Select all units who u have selected.
( . ) = GO to ACU
( , ) = Engs
“O” = Overcharge with ACU.

17º Noobs love to build point of defenses in all map, all game. On the beginning of the game, they have a high cost to be builded in every place, focus on the middle map, build tanks, air units, u don’t need to have PDT1 or PDT2 inside your main base in the most of games. Just AAT1 and AAT2 are very useful to hold drops and gunships. Try to make AA near corners of the map to protect the DROP AREA

18º Another very common mistake with noobs is to build defenses in a parallel lines (like this (XXXXXXXXXX) and I love who make this kind of weak defense.
It’s easy to hit at least 3 units at same time with a single shoot, I can use Overcharge, bombers t1 T2 or T3, mobile arty, TML, mobile missile lauchers, they just send a single shoot, and kill more than u are specting.
This kind of weak defense it’s more easier to break with normal units and experimentals, because the unit can stoop in front of this defenses and kill everything there. When the XP must to move and turn around his main gun, he loses more HP and spent more time to do the same thing.
Think than u are facing an Yothotha, he send a Overcharge every 5 seconds with 4#U and 12000 Damage, if u are builded everything near, a single shoot and the XP will gain veterancy very easy.

19º Don’t be stupid and don’t stay idle near unstable units like PGENS T2, T3, and ENERGY STORAGES, they have 500hp, but his explosion do 2000 damage. Soo it’s a bad choice to build them near each other or near good things like Pgens T2, T3 or factories, to ENERGY STORAGES, the right distance between each other is 2,5#U to avoid the sequential explosion.
Nuke: 4000HP, DAMAGE EXPLOSION: 10000 AREA OF DAMAGE: 2#U
PGENT3: 9720HP, DAMAGE EXPLOSION: 8000 AREA OF DAMAGE: 3#U
M FAB T2: 360HP, DAMAGE EXPLOSION: 370 AREA OF DAMAGE: 2#U
It’s always a good choice to build unstable units far from each other, your enemy will spent much more time to kill your units.


20º Never make a eternal pursuit with your ACU against your enemy ACU on a team match.
Almost of battles are on the middle of map, soo, your ACU run 50% of the map.
To make a good match, without high risks, don’t advance your ACU more than 75% of the map, usually is a suicide.

21º U can avoid Mobile arty t1 if u run in a ZIG-ZAG movement.

22º Always protect PDT2 (125 – 150DPS) on firebases with PDT1. PDT2 have a good range, medium damage, and low turret pitch.
PDT1 have a high damage and a high firerate (150 DPS), it’s good to avoid spam units better than just PDT2.

23º Don’t be stupid… ACU have a high range of build, u don’t need to build things on her feet, use the range (ORANGE CIRCLE).
If u are being attacked with bombers or gunships, u should build shields, sooo, USE THE RANGE to do this, if u are building near your ACU, u will never complete the shield.

24º Don’t be stupid again… Your ACU is good against t1 and t2 units, but weak against T3 units, and VERY VERY VERY weak against XP.
Usually with 18 minutes, your enemy start an XP, Units T3 or many bombers T3, GO BACK to your main base, u don’t are RAMBO.

25º Gun upgrade is ALWAYS necessary, even turtle maps, try to make T2 and Gun before 12 minutes of the game. With some PDT2 and SHIELDS, sometimes u can defeat MONKEYLORDs, using Overcharge, Of COURSE!

26º Make air units… many noobs don’t know how to do this, is very simple, AIR FACTORY + HIT FIGHTER UNIT + HIT INFINITE BUTTON, all time of the game.

27º Don’t waste mass with fighter T2 against other fighters. They are good to use agaist LAND units. It’s better to build 6 fighter T1 than a single Fighter T2 to do the same AIR-AIR job. To use AIR TO AIR, just can be T1 or T3 ASF, T2 is just to try to kill enemy ACU or another important unit.

28º What do u want to do? Kill an enemy firebase? Make more arty t1 than medium tanks.
To protect a firebase? Make more tanks than arty t1.

29º U must to fell, if your T1 units can’t join the enemy base, u have energy t2, and t2 or RESOURCE ALLOCATOR, it’s time to save a good mass…
Kill your t1 (CTRL + K) units and reclaim than to get mass to upgrade your mexes to t3 or make an XP.

30º Hey noob don’t be stupid… if u can’t hold an XP coming against u, RUN to your ally main base.
DON’T TRY TO KILL XP WITH T1 OR T2 UNITS!!
DON’T TRY TO KILL XP WITH T1 OR T2 UNITS!!
DON’T TRY TO KILL XP WITH T1 OR T2 UNITS!!
Kill your fucking tanks and units on your main base, it’s very hard to kill any XP if they come with veterancy.

31º Speak with your friends… help with air units… Speak when u need help, use SPOT hotkeys (F5, F6, F7, F8), when u see an TML, XP, Bombers, Gunships.

32º If a VETERAN ally says to u do something. DO THAT SOMETHING…
Don’t wait to make a couple of things, don’t wait to upgrade something.
I was playing with an noob some weeks ago, and I told:
Make TMD in your main base… hurry. I saw our enemy building TML.
I told again… BUILD TMD in your main base…
And he don’t hear.
CONCLUSION: I told about TML 4.20 minutes before they send the first missile, and my noob ally was upgrading other things, he lose all mexes t2, and a t2 factory.

Yesterday 21/09/2012, I was playing with another noob. (ELDARIEL)
I told to come back to his main base since 16 minutes to 25 minutes of the game, because cybran is a piece of shit, no shields, no good HP on his ACU, sooo… more than 10x I say, BACK TO YOUR BASE, he was on the middle, building PGEN T3.

“MAN… come back to main base to build these PGENS… they can use TML, NUKE, EXP to kill these units very easy.”
Conclusion: I was builded Anti-nuke on my Base, on his base, but he dies on the middle with a NUKE because he don’t listened his partner to come back. It was no reason to be there.

Thx for all…
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Re: Noob Fa guide.

Postby Emptyless » 22 Sep 2012, 16:10

I think this ^ is the best guide i've ever red (or read im dutch :/) on Supreme Commander fan-base forums
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Re: Noob Fa guide.

Postby ColonelSheppard » 22 Sep 2012, 17:13

Actually i this "tuturial" is, especially in the end, way more ranging than helping. Maybe you should think about what you would think about yoursefl if you were the beginner, reading your post. (personally, it reminds me of a LoL forum post)

Howerever it's does contain good/important information and i think if you would make it a bit friendlier (starts with replacing "noob" by the word "beginner" for example) it can help players who are new to the game very well
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Re: Noob Fa guide.

Postby rootbeer23 » 22 Sep 2012, 18:22

the tips are to the point. very useful. i have taken the liberty to apply a grammar and spelling polish.
(awkward expression are left intact if they are formally correct)

BRS_DESTRUCTOR…
21/09/2012… Rio Verde, Goiás, Brazil, South America.

I Hate noobs, version 1.0 (polished for spelling).

Sorry for my English, i’m a Brazilian guy, but i like to teach and I hate some kind of noobs, they never grow up, they have more than 200 matches and are still noob, they never upgrade their strategies, always do the same mistakes, always do the same thing.
So, I will try to teach some basic moves and strategies to you, FUCKING NOOB, who doesn’t listen to your partners and always makes a couple of mistakes on this beautiful game, just shut up and learn something.

Listen… Pay attention… u will get better with these tips.

To Know the game:

PDT1 = Point Defense Tech 1
PDT2 = Point Defense Tech 2
AA = Anti Air
TML = Tactical Missile Launcher
TMD = Tactical Missile defense
PGEN = Power Generator
OC = OVERCHARGE (5000 Energy, 12000 Damage, 3#U)
#U = area used by ONE single PGEN T1.
MEX = Mass Extractor
DPS = Damage per Second


PRO TIPS:

The CAKE IS A LIE… You don’t get any bonus by building factories near mexes, it’s a bug, always keep your mexes to build mass storages.
Mass is essential, sometimes more essential than energy, reclaim everything faster than you can with SHIFT + ALT + HIT MOUSE (DON’T USE PATROL TO ENGS), you will see a RED LINE on the map.
FIRST LAND FACTORY WILL JUST MAKE ENGS ALL GAME, REPEAT… ALL TEAM GAME, build 30 t1 engs, upgrade t2, build at least 15 engs t2, first eng t2 build TMD, others Pgens t2, PDT2, AAT2.
Land factories is faster to build engs.

In some maps, you have a good spots with a lot of mass wreckages, look at these places while your acu is building your first factory (30 seconds to do it), they are usuful to upgrade your first, second or third mass extractor.

You always will be upgrading at least one mex. From 2 minutes into the team match, you must start to upgrade your mexes. If you have a couple of engs reclaiming mass for trees, rocks, and other kind of wreckeage, trust me, you are doing the right thing even if you are on negative production.

The wreckages of ALL UNITS retain 90% of mass if you reclaim them. I say 90%.
Sooo, if your enemy has killed some unit, NEVER BUILD the same thing on that wreckage, if you build like this, you save 50% of the mass. It’s more difficult to get mass, no energy, and if you have engineers, you will build another unit faster with 90% of mass than just 50%
MEX T2 (36+900M) = Saves 810
MEX T3 (36+900+4800M ) = Saves 4320
It’s the same logical system to every unit.

Another good tip… Don’t build T2 mexes with ENGs… NEVER.
build T1(36M/6 seconds to build), hit upgrade to upgrade, while you are upgrading to t2, you are producing mass. Usually you save more than 150 of mass. Only build T3 directly.

Scout your enemy every 2 minutes.

USUAL TIPS:
1º Your ACU MUST NEVER BE IDLE, in almost every map, you must go to the middle to protect your territory. The Acu is always doing something, fighting, building, upgrading itself, fighting again. But does not have an ENGINEER JOB, ACU don’t assist factories, ACU don’t assist mexes upgrades, if it is building something, this building is a PDT1, PDT2, SHIELD, AA, TML, TMD, in summary, units to fight against other units.
The ACU does 100DPS with its main gun, and has 11500 – 12000HP, so he can kill T1 units easily (140 – 300) HP.
Overcharge (hotkey = O) does 13000 damage in a small area of effect, it’s a good way to kill a couple of units with a single shot.

2º Don’t build everything in the same place. In the beginning of the game, its easier to destroy all of your PGENS if they are near each other, your enemy can use a couple of bombers, a single drop of units, tactical missile launchers.

3º You are noob? Don’t play with CYBRANS or AEONS.
They are for good players, they need a lot of micromanagement, they are weak to facing another ACU because they have less HP than Seraphin or UEF, and remember, you are a noob, you don’t have any right to disagree

4º NEVER move your acu without a radar to watch the territory. Build a lot of RADARS, noobs don’t like radars, I don’t know why!!! A single UEF ACU can hold 18 t1 medium tanks, 24 with T2 upgrade, 27-35 with t2 and Gun upgrade.

5º NEVER use ATTACK move to attack an ACU, if your enemy is running, your units will get in range, stop, shoot… So, move again to do the same thing.
The units usually will be near each other with this movement, so it’s very easy to use OC to kill more than 5 units with a single shot.
MOVE your units around your enemy, you can close his passage, it’s more difficult for him to use overcharge, so much better to kill your enemy.

6º NEVER build anything around mexes, except mass storages, they give you 50% of mass production. So, upgrade your mex T1 > T2 (900M), and build mass storages around it.
Don’t be stupid, t1 produces (+2), if you spent (200 each X 4 = 800) on mass storages around them, you get just (+1). With the same mass you upgrade a t2 mex to produces (+6), later with mass storages (+9).

7º NEVER forgot your ACU may be IDLE.
8º NEVER forgor your ACU may be IDLE.

9º A good way to upgrade your mexes is very simple, with this move, you can focus on the battle. Select a single t1 mex (mustn't be upgrading), press CTRL + Z (To select all of the same type as the selected unit). Now, all of them are selected, HIT UPGRADE, wait 1 second, HIT PAUSE (||). Now u can use a couple of ENGS to assist the upgrade, when the upgrade finishes, your eng will go to assist the next MEX. You can HIT UNPAUSE on a single selected mex to accelerate the upgrade sometimes.

10º Learn with some friend HOW TO BUILD TEMPLATES, you will use the TEMPLATES in each game. MAIN TEMPLATES:
MEX STORAGES = To set around mexes
PDT1 WITH WALLs = It’s good to hold ACUs, because with walls ACU can only hit a PDT1 with OVERCHARGEs.

11º Your mass production will ALWAYS be NEGATIVE, if u are saving for something, you are WRONG. You forgot to upgrade something, you forgot to upgrade your ACU, you forgot to build more factories, you forgot to build more energy to air production, U ARE A NOOB.

12º After reclaiming every rock, tree, wreckage in your main base, your idle engineers will go assist air factories or assist ENGT2 who is producing your first or second PGENT2, TMD.

13º Your acu needs 1.30 minutes to upgrade to T2 (24000E 800M) or GUN (22000E 800M) alone, long time to wait, long time to be trapped in a fixed place. You can’t use Overcharge while you are upgrading, you can’t move while you are upgrading, your enemy can use a lot of arty t1 (600DPS), Tatical missile laucher (6000DPS), bombers T2(1200DPS)… so…. Always, to make an upgrade on your acu, you must be in a safe place with a couple of engs to assist your acu.
Your 7th eng will build at least 4 Energy storages, when you are full of energy, upgrade your ACU with more than 4 engs.
The two main upgrades (T2 and gun) must be done in less than 20 seconds each when you are in the middle, so you must have ENERGY and ENGs to assist your ACU. Sometimes you should HIT PAUSE on all of your factories to save mass to make the upgrade faster, belive me, you need to upgrade fast.

14º Stop to do the same mistakes… Think… is it more difficult to kill units in the middle of the map or inside the main base??
The middle is the place for war, not to build any kind of mass or energy production
Soooo… STOOOOOOOOOOOP building PGENT1, PGEN T2, Energy storages, AIR FACTORIES in the middle. If your enemy can BREAK your defenses, you will lose mass, energy and a lot of time.

15º Noobs love engineering stations and fixed t2 artillery so much, you just build these kinds of units afer you have ALL MEXES on T3, they cost a lot to be built before a strong economy.
T2 FIXED ARTY (2200M) have a high cost and low DPS, it’s very rare good players build it, usually we use to protect naval islands against ships or to hold FATBOYS.

16º U must to know the main HOT KEYS…
CTRL + L = Land War units
CTRL + A = All air units
CTRL + Z = Select all units of the same type as the selected.
( . ) = GO to ACU
( , ) = Engs
“O” = Overcharge with ACU.

17º Noobs love to build point of defenses all over the map, all game. In the beginning of the game, they have a high cost to be built in every place, focus on the middle of the map, build tanks, air units, you don’t need to have PDT1 or PDT2 inside your main base for the most of games. Just AAT1 and AAT2 are very useful to hold drops and gunships. Try to make AA near corners of the map to protect the DROP AREAS

18º Another very common mistake with noobs is to build defenses in a parallel lines (like this (XXXXXXXXXX) and I love who makes this kind of weak defense.
It’s easy to hit at least 3 units at the same time with a single shot, I can use Overcharge, bombers T1 T2 or T3, mobile arty, TML, mobile missile lauchers, they just send a single shot and kill more than you are expecting.
This kind of weak defense is easier to break with normal units and experimentals, because the unit can stop in front of these defenses and kill everything there. When the XP must move and turn around his main gun, he loses more HP and spends more time to do the same thing.
Imagine you are facing a Yothotha, it sends an Overcharge every 5 seconds with 4#U and 12000 Damage, if u are building everything close together, a single shot and the XP will gain veterancy very easy.

19º Don’t be stupid and don’t stay idle near unstable units like PGENS T2, T3, and ENERGY STORAGES, they have 500hp, but its explosion does 2000 damage. Soo it’s a bad choice to build them near each other or near good things like Pgens T2, T3 or factories, for ENERGY STORAGES, the right distance between each other is 2,5#U to avoid the sequential explosion.
Nuke: 4000HP, DAMAGE EXPLOSION: 10000 AREA OF DAMAGE: 2#U
PGENT3: 9720HP, DAMAGE EXPLOSION: 8000 AREA OF DAMAGE: 3#U
M FAB T2: 360HP, DAMAGE EXPLOSION: 370 AREA OF DAMAGE: 2#U
It’s always a good choice to build unstable units far from each other, your enemy will need much more time to kill your units.


20º Never make an eternal pursuit with your ACU against your enemy ACU in a team match.
Almost all battles are in the middle of map, soo, your ACU runs 50% of the map.
To make a good match, without high risk, don’t advance your ACU more than 75% of the map, usually it is suicide.

21º U can avoid Mobile arty t1 if u run in a ZIG-ZAG movement.

22º Always protect PDT2 (125 – 150DPS) on firebases with PDT1. PDT2 have a good range, medium damage, and low turret pitch.
PDT1 have a high damage and a high firerate (150 DPS), it’s better to neutralize spam units than just PDT2.

23º Don’t be stupid… ACUs have a high build range, u don’t need to build things on its feet, use the range (ORANGE CIRCLE).
If u are being attacked with bombers or gunships, u should build shields, sooo, USE THE RANGE to do this, if u are building near your ACU, u will never complete the shield.

24º Don’t be stupid again… Your ACU is good against t1 and t2 units, but weak against T3 units, and VERY VERY VERY weak against XP.
Usually within 18 minutes, your enemy start an XP, Units T3 or many bombers T3, GO BACK to your main base, u are not RAMBO.

25º Gun upgrade is ALWAYS necessary, even on turtle maps, try to make T2 and Gun before 12 minutes of the game. With some PDT2 and SHIELDS, sometimes u can defeat MONKEYLORDs, using Overcharge, Of COURSE!

26º Make air units… many noobs don’t know how to do this, is very simple, AIR FACTORY + HIT FIGHTER UNIT + HIT INFINITE BUTTON, all time of the game.

27º Don’t waste mass with fighter T2 against other fighters. They are good to use agaist LAND units. It’s better to build 6 fighter T1 than a single Fighter T2 to do the same AIR-AIR job. To use AIR TO AIR, just can be T1 or T3 ASF, T2 is just to try to kill enemy ACU or another important unit.

28º What do u want to do? Kill an enemy firebase? Make more arty t1 than medium tanks.
To protect a firebase? Make more tanks than arty t1.

29º U must to fell, if your T1 units can’t join the enemy base, u have energy t2, and t2 or RESOURCE ALLOCATOR, it’s time to save a good mass…
Kill your t1 (CTRL + K) units and reclaim them to get mass to upgrade your mexes to t3 or make an XP.

30º Hey noob don’t be stupid… if u can’t hold an XP coming against u, RUN to your ally main base.
DON’T TRY TO KILL XP WITH T1 OR T2 UNITS!!
DON’T TRY TO KILL XP WITH T1 OR T2 UNITS!!
DON’T TRY TO KILL XP WITH T1 OR T2 UNITS!!
Kill your fucking tanks and units in your main base, it’s very hard to kill any XP if they come with veterancy.

31º Speak with your friends… help with air units… Speak when u need help, use SPOT hotkeys (F5, F6, F7, F8), when u see TML, XP, Bombers, Gunships.

32º If a VETERAN ally says to u do something. DO THAT SOMETHING…
Don’t wait to make a couple of things, don’t wait to upgrade something.
I was playing with an noob some weeks ago, and I told:
Make TMD in your main base… hurry. I saw our enemy building TML.
I told again… BUILD TMD in your main base…
And he doesn’t listen.
CONCLUSION: I told about TML 4.20 minutes before they send the first missile, and my noob ally was upgrading other things, he lose all mexes t2, and a t2 factory.

Yesterday 21/09/2012, I was playing with another noob. (ELDARIEL)
I told him to come back to his main base since 16 minutes to 25 minutes of the game, because cybran is a piece of shit, no shields, no good HP on his ACU, sooo… more than 10x I say, BACK TO YOUR BASE, he was on the middle, building PGEN T3.

“MAN… come back to main base to build these PGENS… they can use TML, NUKE, EXP to kill these units very easily.”
Conclusion: I had built Anti-nuke in my Base, in his base, but he dies in the middle by a NUKE because he didn’t listen to his partner to come back. There was no reason to be there.

Thx for all…
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Re: Noob Fa guide.

Postby KillerOfMen » 26 Sep 2012, 13:49

Why is SHIFT + ALT + CLICK with engies better than patrol?
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Re: Noob Fa guide.

Postby discoverer2k4 » 26 Sep 2012, 14:09

because the engys are shown as inactive if there is nothing left to reclaim! Thats good because than you know that you can give them another job to do... With patrol u will never know directly if they finished already unless you have a look on all the reclaimable things on the map on their path... U can use this attack move as well for the factorys, thus the engys coming out will directly start to reclaim trees, rocks and so on in the near of their path - and if they finshed their work, they are shown as inactive again.

But I use patrol in my front base with some (2-3) engys very often, because they reclaim the wrecks in front of my base automatically during the whole game (or they repair the front base)...
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Re: Noob Fa guide.

Postby laPPen » 26 Sep 2012, 15:10

One more info for reclaiming engenners
if u use attack move the engenner reclaims mor efficient. it walks less
and the reclaiming beam reclaims in a longer range.
The negative side is the engeneers stop reclaiming when your power/mass is full
but they dont go on when u have space again in storages.
With patrol move they just pause and go on when u can take some new mass/power.
Same goes for a situation when u reclaimed evrything on the route they
stop and dont go on when new reclaimables appear on their path(for examples airwrecks after airfight)
this doesnt happen with patrol
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Re: Noob Fa guide.

Postby discoverer2k4 » 26 Sep 2012, 16:05

But since I know that one should produce in most games engys all the time and send most of them to reclaim something at least in the early game its terrible to find and select those engys on "patrol" to support a factory etc. ... With the attack move its easier to see those engys - and one can learn it very fast to give these engys a new attack move if there are new wrecks I think... but both have pros and cons...
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Re: Noob Fa guide.

Postby Destructor » 30 Sep 2012, 04:37

If u are with FULL MASS STORAGES... U ARE WRONG...
Never do this.

U must upgrade MEXES, FACTORIES, COMMANDER.
DON'T SAVE MASS TO ANYTHING on the beggining of the game!!
I really waiting for logical arguments to nerf ACUs.
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Re: Noob Fa guide.

Postby Zyneak » 02 Apr 2014, 22:43

Fixed version: 0.1.

I'm still working on this.

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21/09/2012… Rio Verde, Goiás, Brazil, South America.

I Hate noobs, version 1.0.

I like to teach and I hate some noobs, they never grow up. They have played than 200 matches and are still noobs. They never upgrade their strategies, always make the same mistakes, and always do the same thing.
I will try to teach some basic moves and strategies to you. Those who don’t listen your partners and always made a couple of mistakes on this beautiful game, just shut up and learn something.

Listen and Pay attention. You will get better with these tips.

Some keys for the game:
  • PDT1 = Point Defense Tech 1
  • PDT2 = Point Defense Tech 2
  • AA = Anti Air
  • TML = Tactical Missile Launcher
  • TMD = Tactical Missile defense
  • PGEN = Power Generator
  • OC = OVERCHARGE (5000 Energy, 12000 Damage, 3#U)
  • #U = Used area of ONE PGEN T1.
  • MEX = Mass Extractor
  • DPS = Damage per Second

PRO TIPS:

The CAKE IS A LIE… You don’t have any bonus to build factories near mexes, it’s a bug. Only build mass storage around your mexes. Mass is essential, sometimes more essential than energy, reclaim everything faster than u can with SHIFT + ALT + HIT MOUSE (DON’T USE PATROL TO ENGS), u will see a RED LINE on the map.
FIRST LAND FACTORIE WILL JUST MAKE ENGS ALL GAME, REPEAT… ALL TEAM GAME, build 30 t1 engs, upgrade t2, build at least 15 engs t2, first eng t2 build TMD, others Pgens t2, PDT2, AAT2.
Land factories is faster to build engs.

In some maps, u have a good spots with a lot of mass wreckages, look this places while your acu is building your first factory (30 seconds to do it), they are usual to upgrade your first, second or third mass extractor.

U always will be upgrading at least one mex. Since 2 minutes of the team match, u must to start to upgrade your mexes. If u are with a couple of engs reclaiming mass for trees, rocks, and other kind of wreckeage, trust me, u are doing the right thing even u are on negative production.

The wreckages of ALL UNITS save 90% of mass if u reclaim it. I say 90%.
Sooo, if your enemy are killed some unit, NEVER BUILD the same thing on that wreckage, if u build with this, u saves 50% of the mass. It’s more difficult to get mass, no energy, and if u have engineers, u will build another unit very fast with 90% of mass than just 50%
MEX T2 (36+900M) = Saves 810
MEX T3 (36+900+4800M ) = Saves 4320
It’s the same logical system to every unit.

Another good tip… Don’t build T2 mexes with ENGs… NEVER.
build T1(36M/6 seconds to build), hit upgrade to upgrade, while u are upgrading to t2, u are producing mass. Usually u save more than 150 of mass. Just build direct T3

Scout your enemy every 2 minutes.

USUAL TIPS:
1º Your ACU NEVER BE IDLE, almost in every map, u must to go to the middle to protect your territory. Acu is always doing something, fighting, building, upgrading herself, fighting again. But he is not have an ENGINEER JOB, ACU don’t assist factories, ACU don’t assist mexes upgrades, if he is building something, this building is a PDT1, PDT2, SHIELDS, AA, TML, TMD, in resume, units to fight against other units.
ACU do 100DPS with his main gun, and have 11500 – 12000HP, soo he can kill easily T1 units (140 – 300)HP.
Overcharde (hot key = O) do 13000 damage in a small area of damage, it’s a good way to kill a couple of units with a single shoot.

2º Don’t build everything on the same place. On the beginning of the game, is more easily to destroy all of your PGENS if they are near each other, your enemy can use a couple of bombers, a single drop of units, tactical missile launchers.

3º U are noob? Don’t play with CYBRANS or AEONS.
They are to good players, they must need a lot of micromanagement, they are weak to face another ACU because they have low HP than Seraphin and UEF, and remember, u are a noob, u don’t have any rights to disagree

4º NEVER move your acu without a radar to watch the territory. Build a lot of RADARS, noobs don’t like radars, I don’t know why!!! A single UEF ACU can hold 18 t1 medium tanks, 24 with T2 upgrade, 27-35 with t2 and Gun upgrade.

5º NEVER use ATTACK move to attack an ACU, if your enemy is running, your units will get range, stoop, shoot… So, move again to do the same thing.
The units usually will be near to each other with this movement, so it’s very easy to use OC to kill more than 5 units with a single shoot.
MOVE your units around your enemy, u can close his passage, it’s more difficult to him to use overcharge, soo, much better to kill your enemy.

6º NEVER build anything around mexes, except mass storages, they gave to u 50% of mass production. Soo, upgrade your mex T1 > T2 (900M), and build mexes around.
Don’t be stupid, t1 produces (+2), if u spent on mass storages (200 each X 4 = 800) around them, u gave just (+1). With the same mass you upgrade to t2 to produces (+6), later with mass storages (+9).

7º NEVER forgot your ACU IDDLE.
8º NEVER forgor your ACU IDDLE.

9º A good way to upgrade your mexes is very simple, with this move, u could focus on the battle. Select a single t1 mex (don’t be upgrading), press CTRL + Z (To select all of the same selected unit). Now, all of them is selected, HIT UPGRADE, wait 1 second, HIT PAUSE (||). Now u can use a couple of ENGS to assist the upgrade, when the upgrade finishes, your eng will go to assist next MEX. U can HIT UNPAUSE on a single selected mex to accelerate the upgrade sometimes.

10º Learn with some friend HOW TO BUILD TEMPLATES, u will use this TEMPLATE every time on the game. MAIN TEMPLATES:
MEX STORAGES = To set around mexes
PDT1 WITH WALLs = It’s good to hold ACUs, because with walls ACU just hit a PDT1 with OVERCHARGEs.

11º Your mass production will be ALWAYS NEGATIVE, if u are keeping for something, u are WRONG. U forgot to upgrade something, U forgot to upgrade your ACU, u forgot to build more factories, u forgot to build more energy to air production, U ARE A NOOB.

12º After reclaim every rock, tree, wreckage in your main base, your idles enginners will go assist air factorys or assist ENGT2 who is producing your first or second PGENT2, TMD.

13º Your acu spent 1.30 minutes to upgrade T2 (24000E 800M) or GUN (22000E 800M) alone, long time to wait, long time to be stooped in a fixed place. U can’t use Overcharge while u are upgrading, u don’t move while u are upgrading, your enemy can use a lot of arty t1 (600DPS), Tatical missile laucher (6000DPS), bombers T2(1200DPS)… so…. Always to make an upgrade on your acu, u must to be on a safe place with a couple of engs to assist your acu.
Your 7º eng will build at least 4 Energy storages, when u are full of energy, upgrade your ACU with more than 4 engs.
This two main upgrades (T2 and gun) must be done in less than 20 seconds each one when u are on the middle, sooo u must have ENERGY and ENGs to assist your ACU. Sometimes u can HIT PAUSE in all of your factories to save mass to make the upgrade more faster, belive me, u need to upgrade fast.

14º Stoop to do the same mistakes… Think… It’s more difficult to kill units on the middle of the map or inside de main base??
On the middle is the place to war, not to build any kind of mass or energy production
Soooo… STOOOOOOOOOOOP to build PGENT1, PGEN T2, Energy storages, AIR FACTORIES, on the middle. If your enemy can BREAK your defenses, u will lose mass, energy and a lot time.

15º Noobs loves so much engineering stations and fixed t2 artillery, u just build this kind of unit afer u have ALL MEXES on T3, they cost a lot to be builded before a strongest economy.
T2 FIXED ARTY (2200M) have a high cost and low DPS, it’s very rare good players build it, usually we use to protect naval islands against ships or to hold FATBOYS.

16º U must to know the main HOT KEYS…
CTRL + L = Land War units
CTRL + A = All air units
CTRL + Z = Select all units who u have selected.
( . ) = GO to ACU
( , ) = Engs
“O” = Overcharge with ACU.

17º Noobs love to build point of defenses in all map, all game. On the beginning of the game, they have a high cost to be builded in every place, focus on the middle map, build tanks, air units, u don’t need to have PDT1 or PDT2 inside your main base in the most of games. Just AAT1 and AAT2 are very useful to hold drops and gunships. Try to make AA near corners of the map to protect the DROP AREA

18º Another very common mistake with noobs is to build defenses in a parallel lines (like this (XXXXXXXXXX) and I love who make this kind of weak defense.
It’s easy to hit at least 3 units at same time with a single shoot, I can use Overcharge, bombers t1 T2 or T3, mobile arty, TML, mobile missile lauchers, they just send a single shoot, and kill more than u are specting.
This kind of weak defense it’s more easier to break with normal units and experimentals, because the unit can stoop in front of this defenses and kill everything there. When the XP must to move and turn around his main gun, he loses more HP and spent more time to do the same thing.
Think than u are facing an Yothotha, he send a Overcharge every 5 seconds with 4#U and 12000 Damage, if u are builded everything near, a single shoot and the XP will gain veterancy very easy.

19º Don’t be stupid and don’t stay idle near unstable units like PGENS T2, T3, and ENERGY STORAGES, they have 500hp, but his explosion do 2000 damage. Soo it’s a bad choice to build them near each other or near good things like Pgens T2, T3 or factories, to ENERGY STORAGES, the right distance between each other is 2,5#U to avoid the sequential explosion.
Nuke: 4000HP, DAMAGE EXPLOSION: 10000 AREA OF DAMAGE: 2#U
PGENT3: 9720HP, DAMAGE EXPLOSION: 8000 AREA OF DAMAGE: 3#U
M FAB T2: 360HP, DAMAGE EXPLOSION: 370 AREA OF DAMAGE: 2#U
It’s always a good choice to build unstable units far from each other, your enemy will spent much more time to kill your units.


20º Never make a eternal pursuit with your ACU against your enemy ACU on a team match.
Almost of battles are on the middle of map, soo, your ACU run 50% of the map.
To make a good match, without high risks, don’t advance your ACU more than 75% of the map, usually is a suicide.

21º U can avoid Mobile arty t1 if u run in a ZIG-ZAG movement.

22º Always protect PDT2 (125 – 150DPS) on firebases with PDT1. PDT2 have a good range, medium damage, and low turret pitch.
PDT1 have a high damage and a high firerate (150 DPS), it’s good to avoid spam units better than just PDT2.

23º Don’t be stupid… ACU have a high range of build, u don’t need to build things on her feet, use the range (ORANGE CIRCLE).
If u are being attacked with bombers or gunships, u should build shields, sooo, USE THE RANGE to do this, if u are building near your ACU, u will never complete the shield.

24º Don’t be stupid again… Your ACU is good against t1 and t2 units, but weak against T3 units, and VERY VERY VERY weak against XP.
Usually with 18 minutes, your enemy start an XP, Units T3 or many bombers T3, GO BACK to your main base, u don’t are RAMBO.

25º Gun upgrade is ALWAYS necessary, even turtle maps, try to make T2 and Gun before 12 minutes of the game. With some PDT2 and SHIELDS, sometimes u can defeat MONKEYLORDs, using Overcharge, Of COURSE!

26º Make air units… many noobs don’t know how to do this, is very simple, AIR FACTORY + HIT FIGHTER UNIT + HIT INFINITE BUTTON, all time of the game.

27º Don’t waste mass with fighter T2 against other fighters. They are good to use agaist LAND units. It’s better to build 6 fighter T1 than a single Fighter T2 to do the same AIR-AIR job. To use AIR TO AIR, just can be T1 or T3 ASF, T2 is just to try to kill enemy ACU or another important unit.

28º What do u want to do? Kill an enemy firebase? Make more arty t1 than medium tanks.
To protect a firebase? Make more tanks than arty t1.

29º U must to fell, if your T1 units can’t join the enemy base, u have energy t2, and t2 or RESOURCE ALLOCATOR, it’s time to save a good mass…
Kill your t1 (CTRL + K) units and reclaim than to get mass to upgrade your mexes to t3 or make an XP.

30º Hey noob don’t be stupid… if u can’t hold an XP coming against u, RUN to your ally main base.
DON’T TRY TO KILL XP WITH T1 OR T2 UNITS!!
DON’T TRY TO KILL XP WITH T1 OR T2 UNITS!!
DON’T TRY TO KILL XP WITH T1 OR T2 UNITS!!
Kill your fucking tanks and units on your main base, it’s very hard to kill any XP if they come with veterancy.

31º Speak with your friends… help with air units… Speak when u need help, use SPOT hotkeys (F5, F6, F7, F8), when u see an TML, XP, Bombers, Gunships.

32º If a VETERAN ally says to u do something. DO THAT SOMETHING…
Don’t wait to make a couple of things, don’t wait to upgrade something.
I was playing with an noob some weeks ago, and I told:
Make TMD in your main base… hurry. I saw our enemy building TML.
I told again… BUILD TMD in your main base…
And he don’t hear.
CONCLUSION: I told about TML 4.20 minutes before they send the first missile, and my noob ally was upgrading other things, he lose all mexes t2, and a t2 factory.

Yesterday 21/09/2012, I was playing with another noob. (ELDARIEL)
I told to come back to his main base since 16 minutes to 25 minutes of the game, because cybran is a piece of shit, no shields, no good HP on his ACU, sooo… more than 10x I say, BACK TO YOUR BASE, he was on the middle, building PGEN T3.

“MAN… come back to main base to build these PGENS… they can use TML, NUKE, EXP to kill these units very easy.”
Conclusion: I was builded Anti-nuke on my Base, on his base, but he dies on the middle with a NUKE because he don’t listened his partner to come back. It was no reason to be there.

Thx for all…
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