Unhandled Exceptions in Lobby

[Softly]

Just to clarify if you cannot consistently reproduce them with a simple step by step guide that crashes the lobby for anyone, then its not a problem. Do not post logs, do not talk about it because its intended behavior and so doesn't need fixing. Its not a problem.

Just thought I would clarify this for everyone since it rather surprised me.

[Ze_PilOt]

If you can't reproduce an issue, it's not a problem that I can solve.
Doesn't mean it's normal, it's just mean that it's not consistent and I can't debug it.
Also, it doesn't mean that you will never be able to reproduce it. Every bug can be reproduce, it's up to you to find the way.

This is a huge difference. So stop trolling.

[Softly]

You told me it wasn't your problem. While that may be true, its not actually my problem either because I was trying to help you at the time. I'm just disseminating my new-found knowledge on the matter, and to accuse me of trolling is actually quite offensive.

Also if asking for it to be reproduced hasn't worked till now, maybe it isn't the community thats the problem but rather that you're not asking for the right thing. If we're eliminating issues that may be the same on the basis that we can't easily see a way to reproduce them, then that seems to me like the best way to miss what we're looking for.

[rootbeer23]

bugs where the timing is critical cannot be reproduced reliably just by doing something in the same order.
unless you can do it in the same nanosecond.

[Ze_PilOt]

You told me it wasn't your problem.

You did not understood.

You've said that you've managed to crash it, but not replicate it.
I've said "then it's not our problem"
In the sense : "It's not the bug we are looking for", not "we don't care".

I'm asking people to be careful with what happened when the crash occurs. (did the lobby freezed when someone connected ? Did someone alt-tabbed ? Nil to some players for a long time then connecting ?), stuff like that.

It's a fact that I've failed to reproduce the bug when everybody has his connection set right, and there are so many way to screw it...

Now you conduct your test as you want, I don't really care. At the end, I need someone that tell me "hey, the bug occurs when this and this happens, is it possible to fix it ?", and not post a bunch of memory address (I can't do anything with that).

For the logs, you are as able as me to read them, if you want me to help you understand some lines, just ask.
In can also tell you how to enable extra logging (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1184&p=12664#p12664 for reference).

[Softly]

You've already told me the logs don't help you at all, and for the record I've looked through them myself. Did you know it does actually tell you when it was minimized?

[Ze_PilOt]

You've already told me the logs don't help you at all

I does not help me, but maybe it can help you find a pattern over the course of 30 tests.

I does tell you when it's minimized, but not when you are in windows mode and alt-tab (but I can be wrong)

Also, never take something that someone told you for granted if you think they are wrong (and it could be flattering that you think I can't be wrong, but I don't think it's the case )

[Softly]

Zep you made FAF => Zep is God => God is never wrong, so Zep is never wrong

[Ze_PilOt]

For every bug that happens, I'm wrong, that's a lot of time being wrong when you look at this forum