AMD CPU Scores ruining peoples FAF experience

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AMD CPU Scores ruining peoples FAF experience

Postby Darthbobo » 05 Dec 2014, 02:50

Im not trying to start a shitstorm but lately im getting sick of waiting for 30 minutes in a lobby because I have a CPU score of 330 when the game doesnt go below -2.

Surely this game cant have a minimum requirement of an i5! Surely an AMD CPU 8320 which is 4th ranking CPU on CPU Comparison is capable of playing such an ancient game.

It gets to a point where its almost just not worth playing FAF because of this. So many times have I seen good players get booted after waiting 30 minutes for a lobby because of this issue. I am aware that yes it would be nice to have an i5 but really alot of people cannot afford this as an option and there are many players out there who have the same issue I have. Personally I feel that FAF's AMD CPU rating is going eventually going to drive the AMD CPU goers away and only people with i5 or greater will be left.

If you want to encourage more people to join FAF then seriously this should be fixed.
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Re: AMD CPU Scores ruining peoples FAF experience

Postby IceDreamer » 05 Dec 2014, 03:27

AMD CPUs have a lower score because they run FA worse than other options. Ask around, I'm a huge advocate for AMD's CPUs, they have their place, but this game is HIGHLY single-thread dependant and unless your AMD CPU is OCed up to 4.5GHz it's simply not going to compete.

Additionally, you say gamespeed 'doesn't go below -2'... -2 gamespeed is simply unacceptable. Anything under 0 is unacceptable to most people. High-end OCed AMD cores may have a low score, but they at least stay well away from negative simspeed 99% of the time, so people in general are OK with it.
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Re: AMD CPU Scores ruining peoples FAF experience

Postby E8400-CV » 05 Dec 2014, 04:20

If I remember right I booted you a few times, after lagging us down big time.

Anyway: A lot of times I only alt tab back into lobby when I see it's full. If someone with CPU bar erection is in there, and refuses to get it down; I kick. I don't care how long you've waited, I am not going to spend 6 other people's and my own time waiting for your slow CPU's -2 gamespeed.

Your "4th ranking CPU" (<bullshit!) is actually quite a bit down on this list:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
It's actually barely above a Core 2 Duo E8400 from 2008 and it's way under that six your old CPU with 20% OC.

Darthbobo wrote:Surely this game cant have a minimum requirement of an i5!


It doesn't. The cheapest recent regular normal-voltage CPU Intel sells today (the Celeron G1840) for $47 beats your AMD CPU in FAF. If you double that to $90 you can get a Pentium G3460 which will probably score as much as the 2500K's from 2011, and they get <230 in FAF.

Darthbobo wrote:Personally I feel that FAF's AMD CPU rating is going eventually going to drive the AMD CPU goers away and only people with i5 or greater will be left.


Dude; you bought the wrong CPU. The only thing your CPU is decent at are things that fully support such a humongous amount of cores. Like Making renders in Solidworks, rarring / parring files all day, room heating and something like two recent games.

Darthbobo wrote:If you want to encourage more people to join FAF then seriously this should be fixed.


By advertising slideshow gamespeed? Don't think so.


When I clicked on this thread I actually suspected some rage about AMD users lagging the game down. :lol:
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Re: AMD CPU Scores ruining peoples FAF experience

Postby Darthbobo » 05 Dec 2014, 04:39

AGain here is my point, what your saying is that only people with an i5 should play this game? So the FAF market is limited to only i5's? How fucking retarded is that.

Seriously, you complain about a -2 speed, but I just had a fluent game with a -1 speed and it was fine. The problem is these elitest people like yourself. This game was made like 10 years ago and these CPU's weren't even out by then and your saying that its only possible to have a good game with an i5. Look at the facts mate, if you limit your market to just i5+ then its going to be a small community. If you don't like someones score in the lobby kick them at the start, don't fucking wait 30 minutes to tell them they cant play because of the score.

So really learn to live with some peoples shitty cpu scores, sure 400 is unacceptable, but its better than making people wait hours in lobby because you want a better CPU game.

And even more, that CPU might a bit down on the list but ofcourse all the xeon processors take up the first 30 places.
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Re: AMD CPU Scores ruining peoples FAF experience

Postby E8400-CV » 05 Dec 2014, 05:10

Darthbobo wrote:AGain here is my point, what your saying is that only people with an i5 should play this game? So the FAF market is limited to only i5's? How fucking retarded is that.


Did you even read my post?

Darthbobo wrote:Seriously, you complain about a -2


Yes, if I want to do something freaking boring I watch a kid video with my 2 year old nephew.

Darthbobo wrote:but I just had a fluent game with a -1 speed and it was fine. The problem is these elitest people like yourself


Good for you, slomo elitist. I hate the guts out of slowdowns.

Darthbobo wrote:This game was made like 10 years ago and these CPU's weren't even out by then


So what? Plenty of games are only decent playable many years after they come out or only when buying high-end. It's how nVidia / Intel and company sell hardware. Something new comes out that requires more performance and people go out and buy it. Actually, the game is 7 years old. I've played it for many years on LAN parties. And nobody could stand it more than one round per day, because it was freaking slow.

Darthbobo wrote:and your saying that its only possible to have a good game with an i5


Nope, I've pointed out that today's Pentium's, CPU's >25% cheaper than your AMD run this game fine. But that boils down to point 1: you didn't read my post.

Darthbobo wrote:Look at the facts mate, if you limit your market to just i5+ then its going to be a small community.


Look at the facts: most people hate your slowdowns and apparently they still have a bunch of games after kicking all the laggers. Now, you say "there are many players out there who have the same issue". This would mean you can perfectly well play together and enjoy your -2 games while not bothering the people who did do some basic research before buying a CPU and don't want your slowdowns.

Darthbobo wrote: If you don't like someones score in the lobby kick them at the start, don't fucking wait 30 minutes to tell them they cant play because of the score.


I usually include "no lag" in the title. You know what you're in for when joining. And I play a lot at low-activity hours; I can't particularly be bothered by watching it fill up fullscreen.

Two weeks ago I hosted a <230 CPU Setons game and when it filled up I kicked a 260 guy. Most fluent setons ever :mrgreen:

Darthbobo wrote:So really learn to live with some peoples shitty cpu scores


Nope, don't have to and won't. People with shitty cpu scores should stay with smaller maps or get used to not being allowed in with a lot of bigger games. It's actually quite rude: 7 other people in that game might waste half an hour on your -2 nonsense. That's 3.5 manhours wasted just because you couldn't do basic research before buying a CPU? I don't think so!

Darthbobo wrote:but its better than making people wait hours in lobby because you want a better CPU game.


I'd rather have 10 minutes more in lobby and 15 minutes less lag. Heck, I'd even rather have 20 minutes more in lobby than 15 minutes lag.

Darthbobo wrote:And even more, that CPU might a bit down on the list but ofcourse all the xeon processors take up the first 30 places.


Funny. You didn't really read my post, but did click the link. There are 9 Xeons in the top 30. But you probably didn't want to see the two i3's and the Pentium in the top 30?

Here's a fun fact to make this perhaps more bearable for you: my nickname on this forum refers to the CPU in my old desktop. I still use that one sometimes, including for FAF. I simply don't play any Setons on it.
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Re: AMD CPU Scores ruining peoples FAF experience

Postby Darthbobo » 05 Dec 2014, 05:36

Your basically what is wrong with FAF. Good for you kid, you have an i5 or an i7. -2 games don't slow the game down enough to waste 3.5 man hours, so get your fucking facts right. More likely people will need to play for an extra 10 minutes not 10 hours fool. Secondly, the fact you hate someone for going slower than you is basically just retarded. Haters will be haters.
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Re: AMD CPU Scores ruining peoples FAF experience

Postby E8400-CV » 05 Dec 2014, 05:51

Say you lag it down to -2 on a setons that lasts oen game-time hour. Now say it takes 90 minutes IRL with your -2. Seven people times 30 minutes = 3.5 manhours.

Learn multiplication!

Darthbobo wrote: Secondly, the fact you hate someone for going slower than you is basically just retarded. Haters will be haters.


I don't give a shit if you go slower, as long as you stay at or below 0.

People trolling around wanting others to waste half an hour so you can play a game; now, that's some hating.
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Re: AMD CPU Scores ruining peoples FAF experience

Postby Nombringer » 05 Dec 2014, 05:53

Right. This isn't going anywhere productive.

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