[Suggestion] Help I am lost *Changelog*

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[Suggestion] Help I am lost *Changelog*

Postby Dragonfire » 31 Oct 2014, 12:25

One simple statement we must fight:

New and old people are lost in the current state of faf.

We have NO structured central information content system.

1. The forum is NO structured information system
2. github issues, commits are gives you no summary
3. gdocs, readmes, chat logs, forum post are seperated


My "easy" solution:

http://wiki.faforever.com/mediawiki//in ... =Main_Page
Maintenance and push the wiki:

  • For every question we should have a wiki page were we can refer to.
  • For every meeting of the council their is a wiki page.
  • Their is a summary of all features linked to the patch notes

The good point:
Everybody can help !

@visionik @sheeo
Can you activate my account "Dragonfire" and take a look at the register process?

Ps.: I am also the opinion that we need a global issue tracker, e.g. redmine or trello.
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Re: [Suggestion] Help I am lost

Postby zeroAPM » 31 Oct 2014, 15:11

Things I'd (as a noob) like to be added to the wiki:

Detailed changes from vanilla to faf (not the changelog, a vanilla-now comparison)
Mod guide (especially for UI mods), things like what it does and what functionality does it add
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Re: [Suggestion] Help I am lost

Postby Ze_PilOt » 31 Oct 2014, 15:47

zeroAPM wrote:Things I'd (as a noob) like to be added to the wiki:

Detailed changes from vanilla to faf (not the changelog, a vanilla-now comparison)
Mod guide (especially for UI mods), things like what it does and what functionality does it add


What are you considering vanilla? 3556 (real vanilla), 3559 (the latest GPG patch) or 3603 (the latest official patch, the one used by steam).

You can already see the problem : Only accumulative changelog can give you a clear answer.
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Re: [Suggestion] Help I am lost

Postby IceDreamer » 31 Oct 2014, 16:37

I support zeroAPM on that, a 3603 to present changelog is something which needs to happen.
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Re: [Suggestion] Help I am lost

Postby Dragonfire » 31 Oct 2014, 19:11

Ze_PilOt wrote:What are you considering vanilla? 3556 (real vanilla), 3559 (the latest GPG patch) or 3603 (the latest official patch, the one used by steam).


We should at least provide an overview from

3556 -> 3559
3559 -> 3603
3603 -> today

More important is to categorize the patch, e.g.

  • Balance (Nerf/Buff/Rework)
  • New
  • Removed
  • Bugfix
  • ...
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Re: [Suggestion] Help I am lost

Postby Aurion » 31 Oct 2014, 21:24

Dragonfire wrote:
Ze_PilOt wrote:What are you considering vanilla? 3556 (real vanilla), 3559 (the latest GPG patch) or 3603 (the latest official patch, the one used by steam).


We should at least provide an overview from

3556 -> 3559
3559 -> 3603
2603 -> today

More important is to categorize the patch, e.g.

  • Balance (Nerf/Buff/Rework)
  • New
  • Removed
  • Bugfix
  • ...


I don't think those patches are essential, I think only 2603 is an actual necessity: FAF has done this awesome stuff to the game.
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Re: [Suggestion] Help I am lost

Postby Nova » 31 Oct 2014, 21:51

We REALLY need an overview about the changes from the last official patch. FAF changed so much thinks, it's not clear anymore. We should make a fast, easy guide with the most important changes and put it anywhere important, like inside the Launcher of FAF and on the website. Thinks like the factory HQs, the new Tech 3 anti-air or the new shield system need to be explained. People should not have to guess the changes or search and read every of the ca. 30 patch logs.
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Re: [Suggestion] Help I am lost

Postby Dragonfire » 31 Oct 2014, 22:04

Nova wrote:We REALLY need an overview about the changes from the last official patch. FAF changed so much thinks, it's not clear anymore. We should make a fast, easy guide with the most important changes and put it anywhere important, like inside the Launcher of FAF and on the website. Thinks like the factory HQs, the new Tech 3 anti-air or the new shield system need to be explained. People should not have to guess the changes or search and read every of the ca. 30 patch logs.


If you like you can start a new thread an collect it, that we later can import it into the wiki:

/viewtopic.php?t=8400&p=79235
/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=8651
http://www.faforever.com/tag/changelog/#.VFPrOvnF_xU
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Re: [Suggestion] Help I am lost

Postby IceDreamer » 31 Oct 2014, 22:29

I've started to build a changelog from 3603 (Steam) to present. It's 500 lines and I'm not even half-way through, though much of that will be cut down in the end. It's an enormous task 0_0
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Re: [Suggestion] Help I am lost

Postby Dragonfire » 31 Oct 2014, 22:37

IceDreamer wrote:I've started to build a changelog from 3603 (Steam) to present. It's 500 lines and I'm not even half-way through, though much of that will be cut down in the end. It's an enormous task 0_0


Where is it?
github? wiki?

That is the reason I said, we must categorize it ..

If value x of unit y changed to z in 3602 and then changed to y and then to u and then to i.

Why this is relevant?

We need "relevant" changes like hq, t3aa, scau presets, ...

Maybe we need a wiki page for each unit, like league of legends has for every champion:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ezreal/Background
(Look at the bottom, patch history ...)
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