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Not allowed multiple accounts per PC

Postby sasin » 27 Oct 2014, 16:58

Hello,

I realize that multiple accounts are not allowed per PC to prevent smurfing, and I realize that smurfing is really annoying.

However, it also can make it a bit harder to get new players into the game. For example, I have several friends who would like to try the game out, especially with the insanity cups coming up. However, one would need to buy windows as well as the game, and isn't sure he can make that kind of commitment right now. It'd be really great to let him play a few team games with me on my roommate's PC, but my roommate has his own account. Of course, if it's a player brand new to the game it'll be too hard for him to play as an 1100. We could host unranked games and tell everyone who joins that the 1100 is really a new player so it'll be balanced against a low rated player, but I feel as if that will take forever to convince everyone etc. Then you'd have to go through that process every single game and I'm sure the new guy would lose interest. In addition, then if we want to play project insanity he wouldn't have an account.

This is just one example among a myriad of more obvious, straightforward ones. In the past there have been siblings that share a family computer and each want to have their own account. In addition, I've had friends that are interested in the game where it'd be really easy if I could say "Here, make an account on my computer and try it out, I'll help you out" rather than having to suggest they bring their laptop, install it, set up hotkeys, etc. etc.

While I recognize smurfing is an issue, we're losing potential community building by not allowing multiple accounts. Could this restriction be relaxed, or maybe could we allow certain computers to have multiple accounts once you've shown you're a responsible part of the community?
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Re: Not allowed multiple accounts per PC

Postby NewForumAccount » 27 Oct 2014, 18:50

The real problem with this system that any dedicated smurf can simply buy a second copy on steam for a low price and he won't be bothered by the protection, while new players get instantly banned by the system.
It would be better to record all second accounds (including steam-linked ones) and only ban after complaints by other players.
Since real smurfs can be spotted quite easily in replays there should'nt be any problems with this system as long as there are enough moderators with sufficient time.


I don't know to how long this forums minimum account age is set, but after two months you should'nt get "you look to spamy" every second post. (I know this forums had severe problems with spambots but the measures seam to be a little extreme)
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Re: Not allowed multiple accounts per PC

Postby -_V_- » 28 Oct 2014, 12:28

Maybe people need to realize, smurfing is not a real issue.
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Re: Not allowed multiple accounts per PC

Postby Ze_PilOt » 28 Oct 2014, 14:24

[quote="NewForumAccount"
I don't know to how long this forums minimum account age is set, but after two months you should'nt get "you look to spamy" every second post. (I know this forums had severe problems with spambots but the measures seam to be a little extreme)[/quote]

After 10 messages on the forum.
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Re: Not allowed multiple accounts per PC

Postby NewForumAccount » 28 Oct 2014, 14:49

[quote"Ze_PilOt"]After 10 messages on the forum[/quote]
A huge amount of posts is the one thing bots are good at. The strict bot-protection (and the lack of information ) really puts me of posting.
Your answer tells me that amount of posts is the problem since i have this account for two months and got 4 likes.
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Re: Not allowed multiple accounts per PC

Postby sasin » 28 Oct 2014, 16:24

-_V_- wrote:Maybe people need to realize, smurfing is not a real issue.


Well I personally am not particularly concerned about smurfing, but I understood it to be an issue to others. If it wasn't clear, I was advocating for reducing some of the anti-smurfing measures.
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Re: Not allowed multiple accounts per PC

Postby Ze_PilOt » 28 Oct 2014, 21:16

NewForumAccount wrote:A huge amount of posts is the one thing bots are good at. The strict bot-protection (and the lack of information ) really puts me of posting.
Your answer tells me that amount of posts is the problem since i have this account for two months and got 4 likes.


It's not the only protection. It's after 10 messages going through the protections.
You have 8 of them. That's why you can't post links or use a various range of words.
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