Team Matchmaker being cancelled?

[Sir Prize]

I've registered an account because I just want to put on record how awesome I think a team matchmaker would be once its bugfixed. Is there anyone in the community that actually doesn't want this matchmaker to get up or is the cancellation due to people not being able to say what they want to say nicely on the internet?

Zep I'm not the only one who wants you to push ahead with this if you can still bring yourself to do it. Pretty please?

[lextoc]

Worst random name generator. ever.

I also think the custom matchmaker would be nice to have once it's finished!

[Mad`Mozart]

Zep codes the matchmaker, many players excited about it.
He then puts up beta version, people test it and help find bugs. Still excited.
Someone makes a thread on forum how he doesnt like how beta matchmaker works (and probably someone whines in aeolus) = gg, matchmaker is a dead feature, no re

[Myxir]

how it probably looks from Zep's side:

1) people barely use the MM, it takes a long time to debug it, and with this amount of people using it, it's dead anyway
2) while trying to debug / get players to test it, you constantly see people complaining about rating, MM related stuff, desyncs, people not beeing noob friendly, teamkills in custom games etc

3) hide rating in the lobby so that people don't play custom but the MM, receive infinite complains about how shitty everything is, and that they can't compare their virtual dicks to others anymore
4) see that people mostly continue playing custom and are pissed (see point 2, just more intense)
5) as everybody calls your work+decisions stupid, shitty and wants the old stuff back, you decide not to continue working on a supposely great tool but choose the path of lower resistance

at least that's what i imagine, it's probably very hard not to give up...

[SilverKronos]

One good reason to add a matchmaker is to let noob playing !
Cause people do not want to play with noob in custom game (due to their 0 rank and cause people are dumb), so have a matchmaker will allow noobs to play teamgames.
And I think it's crucial to let them play to improve/enlarge the community.

[TEA_Downside]

I hope we can persuade or re motivate zep to work on this great feature, people care far too much about what their global rating is, they seem to play just to try and get a higher number next to their names instead of actually enjoying the game for what it is. I personally don't think global rating should be visible atall as it can easily be a wrong reference to somebody's ability in FAF, and I'm sick of the 'virtual d*** measuring' as somebody else described it and I've only been here for 4 months.

Myself and a clan mate had a really good 2v2 from the matchmaker last night without knowing what anybodies rating was.

[Mad`Mozart]

how it probably looks from Zep's side:

1) people barely use the MM, it takes a long time to debug it, and with this amount of people using it, it's dead anyway
2) while trying to debug / get players to test it, you constantly see people complaining about rating, MM related stuff, desyncs, people not beeing noob friendly, teamkills in custom games etc

3) hide rating in the lobby so that people don't play custom but the MM, receive infinite complains about how shitty everything is, and that they can't compare their virtual dicks to others anymore
4) see that people mostly continue playing custom and are pissed (see point 2, just more intense)
5) as everybody calls your work+decisions stupid, shitty and wants the old stuff back, you decide not to continue working on a supposely great tool but choose the path of lower resistance

at least that's what i imagine, it's probably very hard not to give up...

1) yes, people barely used the MM, cause it was still a new feature and been there for only a week i believe? it was still buggy and had no decent map pool, why would you expect everyone to use it right away? first complete the tool and give people time to get used to it, then see how many people are actually using it. i barely played 1 2v2 game a month before, using MM i played 10 games within a week, so whats all this "noone's playing" bullshit about?

2) desyncs, people not beeing noob friendly, teamkills in custom games etc - wtf, that is not related at all. still, there were enough reports i think and most of reported bugs and connection issues were fixed. we were getting nice updates almost every day fixing some bugs. whats the problem here?

3) imo that was a rash decision to hide the rating and force people to use MM instead of custom games (or what was the goal of doing so?) there will always be people who whine, complain and dont like something, come on Zep you cant please anyone, grow a thicker skin...

4) see 3, also ofc people will continue to play custom games... they will need time reflect and get used to changes. and how much time has it been since hiding rating and killing MM?

5) well, i guess there probably was a shitstorm caused by not showing rating but i missed that. but anyway, thats kinda not related, is it? people were complaining about the rating, not the MM? so far i had not seen anyone speaking that MM feature was shit and it ruins FAF etc etc.


So, because of couple of whiny shiteheads we lose this good thing that could happen to FAF. GG.

[Kof]

MP MM - I'm all for it. At least I'm all for trying it out and seeing how it works out. I think we should give it a few weeks and see how it goes. Zep was going to implement Map selection for it next. Bring it back and let's see how things go.

[FireMessiah]

yet another feature cancelled because people chose to express an opinion in a forum.

its becoming common place within FAF atm.

[prodromos]

Cancelled or not, it doesn't matter. People just seem overly obsessed about having a "fair" fight, than playing and enjoying a a game. I have had my worst moments in supcom, not when losing a game, but trying to start one. You won't believe what obstacles people bring forth before the beginning of a match. They often make me wish to bang my head on the wall and cut my veins, when I meet them.
For hell's sake, people that are supposed to play a game that warrants extreme multitasking and a rapid and strong judgement, can't judge at the blink of an eye if they fit in a game configuration or not? Which leads to the conclusion, that since they are not mentally retarded they're psychologically deficient....
I know, strong words, but how can one explain that many will accept you to play with an absolute beginner, but if you suggest the same for them they will probably cut your throat? Why do you have to bash a beginner that joins your game? Find another beginner and another like yourself and you will have an enjoyable fight. Why do you need a matchmaker in the first place? Do you need an algorithm to tell you that 2+2=4, or your demons don't let you calculate even the simplest of things? I had the salvation(still have it, but it's less eficient now) of ranked ladder 1v1, till people "lost" the initial enthusiasm about it, and it's not so easy to find a ladder game these days; maybe a wrong impression, but this is what I observe, or maybe the game is finally dying, I don't know.