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Reclaim Formula

Postby rockoe10 » 16 Feb 2014, 22:14

When using the reclaim as a Weapon (reclaim a living enemy unit) how fast does the HP drop? I'm assuming it has to deal with the build rate, but i don't know exactly what the math would look like. Can anyone help me?
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Re: Reclaim Formula

Postby ZLO_RD » 18 Mar 2014, 20:41

speed wich unit can be reclaimed by build capacity depends on amount of build power and build time of target

it is pretty easy imho, for example: reclaimming t1 radar takes alot of time, while ACU can reclaim hydrocarbon faster then shoot it down
so you just take unit build time and divide by your build power and you get time that you need to reclaim target (then may divide HP on time and get DPS of reclaim
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Re: Reclaim Formula

Postby Vee » 18 Mar 2014, 21:39

I don't know the formula, but I do know this:

If the buildpower of the unit doing the reclaiming is higher, then it reclaims faster. If the buildtime of the unit being reclaimed is lower, then it reclaims faster.

The actual time it takes also depends on which unit it is. For example aeon quantum optics facility takes a very long time to reclaim, afaik even longer than it takes to build it. On the other hand, t2 power gets reclaimed about 2x as fast as it takes to build it. Maybe this also changed since engymod?

I do know the formula for how long it takes to capture: half the time it takes to build. For all the units I tested, capturing is faster than reclaiming.
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Re: Reclaim Formula

Postby CrayzyNath » 18 Mar 2014, 22:10

Well... reclaiming a t1 engie with a t1 engie is way faster than capturing it ;)
so capture isn't faster than reclaim.
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Re: Reclaim Formula

Postby Vee » 18 Mar 2014, 23:53

True, I only tested structures.
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Re: Reclaim Formula

Postby ZLO_RD » 19 Mar 2014, 07:01

capturing is different story i guess, capturing t1 feels faster than recaliming it, btw
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Re: Reclaim Formula

Postby E8400-CV » 19 Mar 2014, 19:22

I like to know as well. I usually have a whole lot of Cybran Hyves, so anything and everything that gets close is reclaimed, including experimentals and T3 battleships :mrgreen:
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Re: Reclaim Formula

Postby rockoe10 » 20 Mar 2014, 18:34

ZLO_RD wrote:speed wich unit can be reclaimed by build capacity depends on amount of build power and build time of target

it is pretty easy imho, for example: reclaimming t1 radar takes alot of time, while ACU can reclaim hydrocarbon faster then shoot it down
so you just take unit build time and divide by your build power and you get time that you need to reclaim target (then may divide HP on time and get DPS of reclaim


Is this a 100% positive formula? Because I "feel" like its faster to reclaim than build. I could be wrong
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Re: Reclaim Formula

Postby ZLO_RD » 20 Mar 2014, 22:00

rockoe10 wrote:
ZLO_RD wrote:speed wich unit can be reclaimed by build capacity depends on amount of build power and build time of target

it is pretty easy imho, for example: reclaimming t1 radar takes alot of time, while ACU can reclaim hydrocarbon faster then shoot it down
so you just take unit build time and divide by your build power and you get time that you need to reclaim target (then may divide HP on time and get DPS of reclaim


Is this a 100% positive formula? Because I "feel" like its faster to reclaim than build. I could be wrong


agree... looks like my formula is wrong/not complete
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Re: Reclaim Formula

Postby rockoe10 » 03 Apr 2014, 23:38

I did some live testing and found that the Cybran sACU can reclaim a Megalith in 782 seconds. Below is some math:

Build Power: 56
Time to Reclaim: 782 sec
HP Reclaimed: 110,000
Mass Reclaimed: 37,500

DPS = (110,000 hp / 782 sec) = ~140.665 hp/sec
------------ OR
DPS = (37,500 mass / 782 sec) = ~47.95 mass/sec


DPS per Buildpower = 140.665/56 = ~2.5119 DPS/BP

I also did a test on the Galactic Colossus. Math below:

Build Power: 56
Time to Reclaim: ~619 sec (I couldn't pause again and could be off by a few seconds.)
HP Reclaimed: 99,999
Mass Reclaimed: 27,500

DPS = (99,999 hp / 619 sec) = ~161.55 HP/sec
------------ OR
DPS = (27,500 mass / 619 sec) = ~44.43 mass/sec


DPS per Buildpower = 161.55/56 = ~2.8848 DPS/BP


So as you can see, i am getting different numbers for DPS, both HP and mass related. This is more than likely due to the Build time of each unit
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