Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

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Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

Postby Flynn » 05 Dec 2013, 17:52

Hi, recently when playing I have noticed that if you have all of your mexes paused and your engineers set to patrol/attack move, sometimes they will start assisting the mexes with their upgrades without you having told them to. I have had scenarios where my mass is inexplicably low and have found 2 or 3 lone engineers assisting mexes THAT I HAVE NOT TOLD THEM TO at the same time as I have been upgrading the mexes that I have wanted to upgrade. This could literally mean the difference between winning and losing a game in some cases. Can this feature be easily disabled? Thanks.
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Re: Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

Postby FunkOff » 05 Dec 2013, 18:39

Dont upgrade mexes you dont want to upgrade. (Duh)
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Re: Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

Postby ZLO_RD » 05 Dec 2013, 18:48

So you want engineers not assist paused stuff while they are on patrol/attack move? but if you just assist they should assist something that is paused?

not sure if it is possible, but this idea actually makes sence, because if you paused something engyes should not assist it automaticly
i support this idea :)
i wonder if we could even only allow engyes to reclime while they are on patrol and not repair/assist at all, let people learn ground assist command already -_-
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Re: Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

Postby Vee » 05 Dec 2013, 18:49

In addition to what funkoff said: the engineers only start to assist the mexes when you have a lot of mass/energy in storage. So a second solution is: don't float so much mass ^^

That said I would be happy if this behavior is changed :)
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Re: Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

Postby Gerfand » 05 Dec 2013, 18:49

and if you press Z?
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Re: Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

Postby -_V_- » 05 Dec 2013, 23:01

It took you how many games to figure this one out ? ROFL

Don't be retar*** and don't pause mexes you don't intend to upgrade soon. Easy!
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Re: Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

Postby laPPen » 05 Dec 2013, 23:36

Pro tip : pause patroling engies too. This way they will still reclaim but not assist stuff.
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Re: Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

Postby Reaper Zwei » 05 Dec 2013, 23:55

-_V_- wrote:It took you how many games to figure this one out ? ROFL

Don't be retar*** and don't pause mexes you don't intend to upgrade soon. Easy!



Yes yes because making fun of him for it makes you sound so intelligent.

This is a management issue. it happens often on big maps. players upgrade all their mex's at once then pause them so that they don't have to click all the mex's singly. it may be easy to just upgrade exactly when you want to upgrade but I though that at least in part this game is not about clicking things. I like the idea of engy's not helping anything that's paused.
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Re: Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

Postby errorblankfield » 06 Dec 2013, 01:42

Yea, we need to rework the attack move for engies...

How it works now:

1) Reclaim anything a mile from starting locale and along the attack move path.
2) IFF mass >50%, repair/assist in path
3) IFF mass >100%, move to end of path without doing anything
3b) IFF mass falls below 100% while still on path, say screw you ACU and sally forth.
4) IFF attack-move started from factory, upon completion of path just stand there without claiming to be idle.

How it should work:

1) Reclaim by filling your ring with a bunch of reclaimable stuff, reclaim reachable, move on, repeat around attack-move line
2) IFF mass >100%, move on (even mid-reclaiming).
2b) IFF mass falls below 100%, resume reclaiming.

And if paroling, toss in the repair/assist at 25% mass. STOP repairing if mass falls below 25%.


OR just make these auto-behaviors stop if their conditions are no longer met.
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Re: Engineer patrolling/attack move and mex problem

Postby Hawkei » 06 Dec 2013, 01:54

Flynn wrote: I have had scenarios where my mass is inexplicably low and have found 2 or 3 lone engineers assisting mexes THAT I HAVE NOT TOLD THEM TO at the same time as I have been upgrading the mexes that I have wanted to upgrade.


But you did tell them to, when you gave the patrol/attack move order. Understand that this is the behaviour you instructed those engineers to take and adjust your methods accordingly. Never allow your mass to get anywhere near full. Because that is what triggers a patrolling engineer to stop reclaiming and start assisting.
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