A necessary feature for streams (possible solution?)

[SeraphimLeftNut]

All attempts to cast Supcom FA replays(not live) with multiple casters running the game on their computers results in: "What time you got?... ok let me pause, what time you got now? ok..." a few minutes later repeat.

This problem will prevent the appearance of popular streams and will stifle our ability to create a scene around tourneys, etc.

Is the following solution possible?

In a live game, each player sends data to FAF and FAF lets its users to see live replays by connecting to this data.

When a player that is streaming dies, they become an observer, but streaming continues.

When I open a saved replay I watch it as an observer.

Is it possible for FAF to see that I am watching the replay and to treat me watching the replay as if it is a live game and to allow other users to watch this replay at the exact time that I am watching it? (no 5 minute delay necessary here)

This would be huge for streamers and I think it would result in many more streams and many more interesting streams.

Imagine seeing aulex begin streaming a game. Jump into his replay, catch up to his time, get on mumble and co-cast. This eliminates a lot of issues with attempting to get all casters in the same place at once.

For casting tourneys this would be huge, you can imagine multiple casters going in and out seamlessly from the stream.

Having one person cast a tourney is too much to ask for, talking alone for hours at a time is a pain in the ass. It also becomes progressively more painful to listen to...

[Ze_PilOt]

Is it possible for FAF to see that I am watching the replay and to treat me watching the replay as if it is a live game and to allow other users to watch this replay at the exact time that I am watching it? (no 5 minute delay necessary here)

No, but it's possible to turn any replay into a live event.

[Nombringer]

Yeah I remember talking with you about this TA.

Zep, when you say you can turn it into a live event, do you mean that one could "host" a replay, then they would all observe at the same time?

I can agree with TA here, dual casts are almost impossible due to this, (Aulex and I have tried multiple times). If this could be implemented it would also be useful when I am going over replay's with people when I am training them, where agian, we have the same problem

[lextoc]

Maybe you could use Teamviewer or something similiar to dualcast? Just a suggestion

[Aulex]

Maybe you could use Teamviewer or something similiar to dualcast? Just a suggestion

Way too much delay, you have to account for both mumble and team viewer

Ta has informed me about the open live replay server tool here:
http://code.google.com/p/openlivereplayserver/

If anyone wants to help me set it up and/or convert it to be compatible with faf (if that's even possible) that would be very helpful.

Edit:

Currently i'm running into two issues:

1. I try and run LiveReplayServer.jar to try and create a server but i get some errors in command prompt
http://pastebin.com/Dzf4n3Bv

2.When I try to run the livereplayserver via website as seen here http://code.google.com/p/openlivereplay ... yFromLinks
it looks for a scfa replay file instead of fareplay file so i cannot open any files from faf. If anyone knows how to convert them that would be lovely.

Edit 2:
If you look through both the client and server manuals they keep referring to features/tools/addresses associated with gpg, again if anyone is able to convert or alter the program in a way to work with faf or faf replays.

[RoLa]

How does a live replay work? Couldnt that mechanism be adapted? The replay should be streamed to the clients so that the the faster clients would pause lets say every 15 seconds for 1-3 seconds like a little lag.

[rootbeer23]

why dont you try to synchronize on a live game. if that works than certainly a fake-live game will work too.

[Ze_PilOt]

To explain better my answer:

A replay is a stream.
A livereplay is a stream.

There is virtually no difference.

The only one is, when you watch a replay on your hard disk, all the data are there.
When you are watching a replay on the livereplay server, you have to wait for the data to be sent.

Putting a replay on a server and stream it real time (10 ticks a second) is entirely possible.
You wouldn't be able to go further than that what was send, meaning both players will be synchro (like a livereplay, again, there is no difference).

[SeraphimLeftNut]

I am giving up on making this livereplay thing work. I have no clue what I am doing and the manual leaves big gaps, that are supposed to be obvious, I guess.

I hope someone with knowledge about this stuff can make this work and tel one of the casters.

[Myxir]

You wouldn't be able to go further than that what was send, meaning both players will be synchro (like a livereplay, again, there is no difference).

but you can fall behind.
a finished replay can also contain sim info that a pc can maybe run at -1 or -2, means that the server sends more info than you can use
and if not all the viewers can watch it as fast as the server sends (+0 or higher), the possiblity for async viewing is given again because of different cpu speed