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The Current state of Aeon

Postby Tex » 06 Aug 2013, 21:16

The Current state of Aeon.

Currently with the rising popularity of aeon, I feel that the aeon race is looking to be too strong at the moment. This same scenario happened with the patch that buffed cybran. Mantis got reworked, many people played as Cybran, and they had a huge early advantage because of the stronger t1. I feel that this same thing is happening with Aeon now. The T1 Aurora is very strong. Hover, range that can kite an acu, and insane DPS is a huge bonus for aeon. The ability to kite at the early game leads to a huge advantage. You can dictate how battles are fought, you can force an ACU out of an area by kiting it, sometimes even killing it. Hover lets you take a massive advantage on some maps. On ladder, almost a third of the maps offer some additional advantage to aeon. Forcing your enemy to defend certain areas that he can not attack from. Wasting mass just for the possibility of assault. You have such a massive advantage at the t1 stage. This advantage will increase exponentially into the late game, as sup com is known to do. People used to say (Zep included) before the patch that Aeon had a strong t1 stage that was balanced out by poor T2. Well after this patch, you now only made t1 better, but made t2 extremely strong. Mobile shields that only cost 75E, and take away the only weakness of the aurora, and 3k HP tanks of doom, one of the few downsides of aeon was immediately removed. T2 air help dominate the skys, leaving no little room to bomb the tanks.

I remember Zep saying very frequently that if aeon was overpowered, then everyone would start to play with them. Well, currently Zock, Varro(Congreve), Voodoo, Failpro and Percival all switched to aeon. This is a significant portion of the top players of FAF. I would like to introduce the possibility of a small re tweak of the aeon race.

Some statistics I just got off of the 1 vs 1 ladder.
Of The last 34 ladder games played with the rating of the players over 1900...(As of 2013-08-06 14:21 EST)
Aeon was in all but 3 of the matches (30/33) Aeon was played in 91% of the last 33 matches
There were 7 Aeon vs Aeon mirrors (7/33) or 21% of the last 34 matches
Of The 23 Aeon vs Other matches... aeon won (17/23) of them 73.9%

TLDR: Aeon is in 90% of all High level ladder matches, and wins almost 75% of the time against other factions. I think I rework is in order.
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Re: The Current state of Aeon

Postby Blackheart » 06 Aug 2013, 21:32

The introduction of a patch into the official game is always the first competitive testing with statistics at hand. I am after release of the patch also in the opinion that aeon are (considering the mappool aswell) at the moment a bit too strong. I dont think a big fix is necessary though, the aurora just turned out to be too strong, like the mantis did last patch. A small aurora re-nerf would fix most of the problems in my opinion.
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Re: The Current state of Aeon

Postby Cheva » 06 Aug 2013, 21:58

Hi,

I don't think Aeon are as bad as Tex posted for me aeon was still strong before just none played them. (Aeron play probably went up because Adjuton plays more now :D)

I do feel the problem is with the aurora. Sure you can nerf it but then I think we fall into another problem where bombers murder them and you can lose the early game because of 2 or 3 well used bombers.

I don't have an answer but that is my two cents.

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Re: The Current state of Aeon

Postby Ze_PilOt » 06 Aug 2013, 22:01

Postulate as balance team leader in some months.
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Re: The Current state of Aeon

Postby Golol » 06 Aug 2013, 23:20

aeon was actually barely buffed in the patch in my opinion.
the changes on the obsidian were very small and it lost speed so thats nearly a nerf.
compared to the chickenbot the obsidian is still a joke.
the blaze was buffed but imo is still far from making aeon op.
the shield is a real buff indeed. but if i see aeon dominate its not because of shields.
then the snipers were buffed but thats insignificant for most matches.
and the aurora was made a bit better by making it better controllable but its still far from being as strong as the aurora with super high turret speed.
i dont think these changes can make aeon op.
the new ladder maps just make them very strong in the ladder.
and many people just heard "aeon got buffed" so now they want to test it.
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Re: The Current state of Aeon

Postby FkR » 07 Aug 2013, 10:33

Golol wrote:the new ladder maps just make them very strong in the ladder.
and many people just heard "aeon got buffed" so now they want to test it.


With all due respect Golol I disagree with everything you said. I think most people didn't want to test out aeon, they logged in after the patch, jumped on their prefered race and got owned ten times in a row by aeon. They then realised they were going to have their rating slammed so they switched to aeon. Atleast that seems to be the case in the top 100.

The new maps don't help but even if the map pool had not changed, the same thing would happen. Aeon have an advantage on almost every map even if there's no water.
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Re: The Current state of Aeon

Postby StefanD_ » 07 Aug 2013, 10:43

People didnt understand that with engy mod Obsidians were buffed, they really didnt need other buffs they are percoes at t2 and as the percies were buffed by wngy mod so were the obsidians.But the percies were nerfed and obsidians buffed caz people didnt understand that obsidian=percie at t2
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Re: The Current state of Aeon

Postby Lu_Xun_17 » 07 Aug 2013, 10:57

I think aeon doesn't look obviously OP now (except maybe the restorer in some situations)
However the mappool is really in favor of aeon, and some maps should never been there or at least should be rebalanced before added to the pool.
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Re: The Current state of Aeon

Postby Nombringer » 07 Aug 2013, 11:12

I would for sure give it more games before jumping to conclusions. The feedback is appreciated.


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Re: The Current state of Aeon

Postby Voodoo » 07 Aug 2013, 13:18

You can't win vs aeon with a t1 land spam. Try to go for fast gun upgrade, fast t2 land or earlys bombers / ghetto gunships.
I havn't seen anyone trying this until now. It's nearly the same for warter maps, there you can go for fast navy and frigates.

I'm playing aeon at the moment because all are playing aeon. So i don't need to think about a anti faction strategy and i can use the auroras as normal tanks vs other auroras. I think Nombringer is right, give it some more games first.
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