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Results and correct answers of the survey

Postby psycoakira » 02 Apr 2013, 14:14

Dear Zep and other Gods of FA Forever,

first of all thank you for all your efforts you put into this wonderful gaming experience we all savor.

I would like to ask for the correct answers of the survey (WE NEED YOU!) as I noticed upon taking the survey that there is a gap in my knowledge concerning efficiency of factories/engies as well as the teching of the mexes.

Pls send me the answers (maybe once the survey is finished but best would be asap enabling me to further improve my performance on the field of valour.

If the His Royal Nukeness Colonel Sheppard or any able person might have a link for me to a vid or page with further informations and indeep knowledge of the eco that would be great. Im particullarly interested in the teching of mexes and the exakt knowledge when to do what !
Pls feel free to fill the gap behind my forehead !

Your help is, as always, most welcome and will be appreciated by a clean fast death should we meet in the field.

Thanks

Christian aka psycokira
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Re: Results and correct answers of the survey

Postby ColonelSheppard » 02 Apr 2013, 15:01

you can chill, i dont know the answeres too
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Re: Results and correct answers of the survey

Postby Voodoo » 02 Apr 2013, 16:58

psycoakira wrote:Im particullarly interested in the teching of mexes and the exakt knowledge when to do what !


No one can give you a short and exactly answer to this.

teching of mexes:
- depends on the map (e.g. you can ignore it on 5x5 maps, but you have to do it as fast as possible on 20x20 maps)
- you need a feeling for it, there will be a time where you think my opponent won't attack me in the next 3 mins (maybe scout him), then you can tech one
- and it depends on the reclaim: the stones, the battlefield and so on

knowledge when to do what:
- if someone would know this, then he would win all games :)

To say we need more informations (map, ranked or costum, opponent, ...)
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Re: Results and correct answers of the survey

Postby Voodoo » 02 Apr 2013, 17:05

If you have too much time :)
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Re: Results and correct answers of the survey

Postby Eukanuba » 03 Apr 2013, 00:17

I found it a bit confusing with the 'order-these-from-1-to-5' questions, because it wasn't clear if 1 was top or bottom. I assumed that 1 was top for what it's worth.

It was also confusing having least effective first, because it's a lot easier to learn what is most effective and ignore the ineffective options.

So if a similar survey is done again, I would recommend clearly numbering the options and also making people choose most effective first.
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Re: Results and correct answers of the survey

Postby SeraphimLeftNut » 03 Apr 2013, 03:13

http://wwpct.webs.com/facts-about-mass-upgrades
Here are some calculations showing that it is impossible to give a correct answer to some of the questions in the servey. That is the beauty of our game, it doesn't lend itself to simple rules.
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Re: Results and correct answers of the survey

Postby CocoaMoko » 03 Apr 2013, 03:18

SeraphimLeftNut wrote:http://wwpct.webs.com/facts-about-mass-upgrades
Here are some calculations showing that it is impossible to give a correct answer to some of the questions in the servey. That is the beauty of our game, it doesn't lend itself to simple rules.

This post is ironic since in the bottom left of each picture it has two "rules" that are conclusions based on the data ahah.

There are rules and we do need them.

(Not saying that the survey makes sense of course aha)
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Re: Results and correct answers of the survey

Postby SeraphimLeftNut » 03 Apr 2013, 03:44

Skilzat99X wrote:
SeraphimLeftNut wrote:http://wwpct.webs.com/facts-about-mass-upgrades
Here are some calculations showing that it is impossible to give a correct answer to some of the questions in the servey. That is the beauty of our game, it doesn't lend itself to simple rules.

This post is ironic since in the bottom left of each picture it has two "rules" that are conclusions based on the data ahah.

There are rules and we do need them.

(Not saying that the survey makes sense of course aha)


Yes there are rules, but they are certainly not simple and the good player knows when a rule is to be broken. You can reach a very good gameplay level by just following simple rules like T1, T2, storage, T3 sequences, etc. However, you will be beaten by the player who realized a situation where going straight to a T3 mex is the most ideal solution.

In general understanding the mass flow through your and enemy eco (scheme here: http://wwpct.webs.com/facts-opinions-gameplay ) is the part of the game where most players have a lot of room to grow (individual unit micro is perhaps more important for some people).

This mass flow is controlled by the engineering force, and seeing alternatives like the engie mod is like watching the heart arteries of the circulatory system of our beloved game turned solid from saturated fat doposits, surely leading to poor health and a premature death.
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Re: Results and correct answers of the survey

Postby Mad`Mozart » 03 Apr 2013, 06:42

I found this survey a bit confusing. Didnt know correct answers for some questions as well. Or should I put it this way, didnt know there were correct answers for those questions. Like, how many engies you need to upgrade a mex in a most efficient way? Really? Depends on my eco and the situation on a battlefield. And many other factors too.

Also, I dont like how you were discussing eco changes recently. There was a lot of stuff said and proposed on forums, in chat, and of course this survey as well has its goal of gathering info on how people feel and understand FA eco. Because you are looking into changing it. And I totally dont like the hype that's going on now, because im afraid that the wrong decision could be pushed by a group of authoritative players and it will only hurt the game. Meh, hope this will not happen...
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Re: Results and correct answers of the survey

Postby Ze_PilOt » 03 Apr 2013, 08:15

Mad`Mozart wrote: Really? Depends on my eco and the situation on a battlefield. And many other factors too.


If you want the most efficient way, no, it doesn't depend on anything else than a single factor. And that factor is the question.

because im afraid that the wrong decision could be pushed by a group of authoritative players and it will only hurt the game. Meh, hope this will not happen...


What will happen is that the right decision could be pushed by a group of authoritative players.
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