Supreme Commander & Forged Alliance Proposal

[Reddev32]

As many of you may be aware of, THQ has gone bankrupt and this has led to THQ selling all their assets that they own and among those that they are selling is the Supreme Commander and the Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance software license (Slot 6). Information

So what am I proposing?
I am proposing that the Supreme Commander community could rally to help and assist in buying the software license from THQ for both games. As I am not sure how much this would cost I will be using my PayPal donation account for the funds to be put into. I will not be using Kickstarter or Indiegogo simply because I want all the proceeds to go towards our goal and not those companies. Kickstarter charges you 9% of the funds raised if you succeed and 4% if you fall short and I believe it's the same for Indiegogo. I will not even take a penny for myself.

How can this happen?
I am currently talking to THQ in relation to buying the software licences and that conversation will be under a NDA(non-disclosure agreement) which means I can't reveal the details of that conversation unless the NDA is lifted. All the information I can provide, I will share with you, without breaking the agreement and possibly putting this proposal in danger of failing.

What information can I disclose?
Aside from the the information above I can also say that if the community can and are willing to support such a proposal I would need to put in a initial bid before the 5pm EST(Eastern Time) on the 1st of April 2013. Although this is 15 days away I think it is achievable to raise enough funds to make it possible for THQ and its parties consider the initial bid.
If we can get through the initial bid stage we will have another 15 days to raise more funds to aid both bids and to get the software license for both games. If we can't get enough funds to be able to get both, Forged Alliance will get the priority over Supreme Commander.

What will the bid be under?
As it is a requirement that the bid has to be made from a company it will be going under the name of HostYourNet, the company that I currently run and own. Even though it will be under the HostYourNet company name it will belong to the community and remain in the hands of the community and support any other current or future project that will involve Supreme Commander or Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance.

What guarantee do I offer the community?
If we can't raise enough money to pass the initial bid stage, all of the money that gets donated to the proposal will get refunded with no charge from PayPal and therefore the people who donate won't be losing anything financially if this doesn't work out. I will also be able to give everyone that has donated into this proposal a chance to get their money back in time of course. This will be achieved by possible future sales of Supreme Commander and Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance and not only the profits that the company HostYourNet makes, thanks to the role you have all played and this is dependent on if we can get past both the initial stage and the final bidding stage. Once all the money has been returned, all profits from the sale of the game/s will go back into funding the likes of Forged Alliance Forever, Galactic War and the possible revival of GPGnet which will be hosting Supreme Commander, Forged Alliance (3599 Patch/Classic) and Forged Alliance (3603 Patch) as well as keeping the future of Forged Alliance running via Forged Alliance Forever.
The funding will be as follows from the profits:
o 50% will go towards Forged Alliance Forever and new future projects.
o 50% will go to keeping GPGnet up if it is revived, and if it can't be, then all funding will go towards Forged Alliance Forever.

Why am I doing this?
Well, as most of you know I've been in the Supreme Commander community since the beta for Supreme Commander. I've been known for hosting tournaments on GPGnet for the community on maps that were not in the official ranked section(custom maps), creating 2v2 tournaments and even the odd 3v3 and 4v4 tournaments so Supreme Commander is in my blood and will be forever. I managed to get the creator of Supreme Commander Chris Taylor into a IRC live chat and ask him question on number of topics.

If you have any question about something that I have not covered, please don't hesitate to ask and if you do choose to support this the link to donate is below.
Link to be added very shortly.

Regards,
Daniel Robinson aka Reddev32

Other links to the post,
http://www.gamereplays.org/community/in ... pic=918715
http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62188

[rootbeer23]

why does THQ sell the licence to SCFA when they produced the game themselves?

whats the point of reviving GPGNET?

what kind of money are we talking about? how many digits?

[HEAVY]

What would we have to do for source code modification rights? Negotiate with CT?

[Ze_PilOt]

Source code has nothing to do with this.

I'm actually not sure what this is about.

[ColonelSheppard]

At first, i appreciate what you are doing, and i know you are around for a long time but i have to point out a few things.
The first thing is that you ask people to simply give you money as far as is understood, i'm sorry but i somehow find this strange, and i think many people also think so.
The second thing is that you say something about GPGnet: Sorry but what exactly do you want with GPGnet? I dont want to play on GPGnet again since it was at least part of the reason why i stopped for a time and only returned with FAF. I think the open source solution of FAF is the non-pulsultra, also you cant really want to split the community between FAF and a new GPGnet, so pls be clear about that.
Also i want to ask too of how many money we are talking here, i dont consider you one of these irrational idiots that open such a thread without thinking about it, so i hope you can provide more information about that.

[Reddev32]

why does THQ sell the licence to SCFA when they produced the game themselves?
whats the point of reviving GPGNET?
what kind of money are we talking about? how many digits?

Rootbear THQ are selling assets which i have outlined in the begining of the post
The point is also stated

"the possible revival of GPGnet which will be hosting Supreme Commander, Forged Alliance (3599 Patch/Classic) and Forged Alliance (3603 Patch) as well as keeping the future of Forged Alliance running via Forged Alliance Forever"

As of yet i do not know the figure cause of the NDA even if i did i could not disclose it so to speak. But considering it has noting to do with the IP of the game i say it really can't be that much, and if you think about it i never heard of a games publishing rights to be ran by the community.

What would we have to do for source code modification rights? Negotiate with CT?

The source code for fa itself is held currently by THQ if we manage to do this we the community will own it thus giving us the right to modify the code and for pilot to have a free license to do it on faf as well.

At first, i appreciate what you are doing, and i know you are around for a long time but i have to point out a few things.
The first thing is that you ask people to simply give you money as far as is understood, i'm sorry but i somehow find this strange, and i think many people also think so.
The second thing is that you say something about GPGnet: Sorry but what exactly do you want with GPGnet? I dont want to play on GPGnet again since it was at least part of the reason why i stopped for a time and only returned with FAF. I think the open source solution of FAF is the non-pulsultra, also you cant really want to split the community between FAF and a new GPGnet, so pls be clear about that.
Also i want to ask too of how many money we are talking here, i dont consider you one of these irrational idiots that open such a thread without thinking about it, so i hope you can provide more information about that.

I appreciete that you know what im trying to do, If i had the cash i'd go it allone but i have people saying why i am doing it and "its a reddev32 thing" but its not its for the benefit of the community.
"i'm sorry but i somehow find this strange, and i think many people also think so." Yes i understand i would be the same put it the same as donating for GW or FAF the only difference is that im heading this up i think im not well popular with mods and admins so to speak.
your 2nd i believe i answered that by responding to rootbear.

I think the open source solution of FAF is the non-pulsultra, also you cant really want to split the community between FAF and a new GPGnet, so pls be clear about that.

Yes having this will give FAF that option of no come back at all from anyone as the community will own it. My intention is not to spilt the community but rather give them the use of Supreme commander (only playable via GPGnet) and bring GPGnet might not even be a current think cause if this fails then it might never happen.

Also i want to ask too of how many money we are talking here, i dont consider you one of these irrational idiots that open such a thread without thinking about it, so i hope you can provide more information about that.

I am not sure on how much but it can't be in the 100's of grand as this is not the IP where going for that is owned by SE. Once they have accepted the NDA i will know how much it will really cost and if its even possible.

[Ze_PilOt]

The source code for fa itself is held currently by THQ if we manage to do this we the community will own it thus giving us the right to modify the code and for pilot to have a free license to do it on faf as well.

Are you sure of that ?

[Reddev32]

The source code for fa itself is held currently by THQ if we manage to do this we the community will own it thus giving us the right to modify the code and for pilot to have a free license to do it on faf as well.

Are you sure of that ?

Yes unless you have proof?

[Ze_PilOt]

The source code for fa itself is held currently by THQ if we manage to do this we the community will own it thus giving us the right to modify the code and for pilot to have a free license to do it on faf as well.

Are you sure of that ?

Yes unless you have proof?

Well, it seems pretty logic to me that the source code is not sold with the publishing rights, as it's a GPG asset.

[rootbeer23]

there is certainly a more detailed description availabe than "assets".