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Watching replays where you have lost; a drag?

Postby Flynn » 03 Feb 2013, 22:36

Is it only me or does anyone else watch the replays where they have lost and think after the replay "I still have no idea how I lost"? All I see from the replays is a few major things such as:

He had more mass than me
He had more spam than me
He upgraded his mexes but I couldn't because I was investing everything in land spam (which should have meant he would have been overrun by my spam as a result of upgrading his mexes)

I'm coming up to 200 games now and appear to be stuck around the 1100 mark, I see some of the pros only have had a few games, hell, j3ker has 50!

I rarely learn anything from watching a replay. Anyone feel the same?
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Re: Watching replays where you have lost; a drag?

Postby Ze_PilOt » 03 Feb 2013, 22:43

You can post them in the "help me I'm a newbie" section, I'm sure someone will give you some pointers and things to look after in your next replays.
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Re: Watching replays where you have lost; a drag?

Postby Flynn » 03 Feb 2013, 22:58

But I mean in general. I'm past the newbie stage but I just can't stand to watch a replay where I've lost because I know I won't get much out of it.
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Re: Watching replays where you have lost; a drag?

Postby Ze_PilOt » 03 Feb 2013, 23:00

We are all the noob of someone, no shame in that.

Having an external point of view can help decypher what you can't see :)
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Re: Watching replays where you have lost; a drag?

Postby Rocksteady » 04 Feb 2013, 00:07

Don't ignore the little things they can snowball, 5-10 second delay at start due to bad build order/placement allows opponents first 5-6 mex to get 5-10 seconds more mass which just snowballs and 5-10 seconds behind becomes 2-3 minutes by mid game. If you lose early engie that would have built a mex that's another 20-30 seconds of +2 mass lost plus the mass to replace the engie and possible eco problems. Watch the first 3-4 minutes of replays you lost and check for eco stalls , early engies killed , idle engies/acu etc
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Re: Watching replays where you have lost; a drag?

Postby ColonelSheppard » 04 Feb 2013, 00:40

if you post a replay, people can have a look on it:

i normally post these links:
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2089
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2879 (look last page for latest download)
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1614
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Re: Watching replays where you have lost; a drag?

Postby ZaphodX » 04 Feb 2013, 01:56

To add to what rocksteady said it seems it's basically your build orders that are lacking. You often see someone who pulls ahead on points pull ahead the whole game. The first few minutes have a huge effect on the rest of the battle. You should have a build orders on each map that takes the reclaimable mass on the level and the raid points into account with what you build. Watch good player's openings.
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Re: Watching replays where you have lost; a drag?

Postby ZLO_RD » 07 Feb 2013, 08:34

i usually can find out where i did wrong in my games (not all the time) usually it is lack of agression that leads to loosing middle reclaim, bad unit choise, wrong acu position, lack of scouting to prevent imba tactic, sometimes ppl just spam ints instead of being agressive with bombers, here was ton of examples that i lost when posting process failed, but sometimes it is just luck in my games can decide the ending, also some factions have huge advantage or disadvantage on some maps, they can use it or not, you can still conter when they use it (usially with air), but you need to know for sure..
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Re: Watching replays where you have lost; a drag?

Postby ColonelSheppard » 07 Feb 2013, 12:28

Flynn wrote: I'm past the newbie stage


nope :mrgreen:
see: only because you are over 1000 or even over 2000 that doesnt mean you are not making mistakes anymore, is see BlackDeath frequently failing like newbie in single situations (sorry for taking you as example BD :D ) so if you are not good in reviewing your replays yourself - post and let other try that for you
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Re: Watching replays where you have lost; a drag?

Postby Flynn » 07 Feb 2013, 17:21

UES_Sheppard:

Newbie means someone new at the game. If a pro player like BlackDeath still makes mistakes then the mistakes are obviously not those of a new player, they are mistakes that anyone can make. Common mistakes do not=newbie.
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