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Why not: VETO for ladder maps

Postby Bliss » 18 Dec 2012, 15:43

I was wondering if it's possible somehow to introduce a simple veto for ladder maps.

I think many players avoid ladder because they don't want to play certain maps.

Personally I hate sea maps and would like to not play them.

Of course veto should be restricted to one or two possibilities each season.

I think that could increase the number of laddering people.

Is that hard to introduce , eventually ?

Let me have your opinion.
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Re: Why not: VETO for ladder maps

Postby ColonelSheppard » 18 Dec 2012, 17:12

it's ranked, not fun game (basicly) so you have to play the maps you get, if you want to select maps you have to play custom games
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Re: Why not: VETO for ladder maps

Postby Bliss » 18 Dec 2012, 17:49

I do agree with you that competitive ladder must not allow you to play what you want . I come from starcraft world where it is completely normal to select your preferences on maps and possibly avoid the most hated ones and this can be done with a map pool 5 times smaller than ours.
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Re: Why not: VETO for ladder maps

Postby ColonelSheppard » 18 Dec 2012, 17:57

this option was once there but has been removed on FAF, after HardFFA is out of ranked pool, most people can live with not beeing able to reject a map i guess
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Re: Why not: VETO for ladder maps

Postby Myxir » 18 Dec 2012, 18:05

it's easy, just get a map you really really hate which is not in the ranked pool
(for me, it's kazam :) )
then you won't have problems to play^^
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Re: Why not: VETO for ladder maps

Postby Bliss » 19 Dec 2012, 11:39

ok I've seen that HARDFFA is out for the next season basing on the votes on it . I'm an happier player now :D
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Re: Why not: VETO for ladder maps

Postby Alluminati » 01 Aug 2013, 19:42

Hi guys,

so I'm reviving this thread, because I think map vetos deserve to be discussed again.
I came to know and love them from bliz strategy games and they all had a MUCH SMALLER map pool than ours. This map pool is humongous already, a few vetos wouldn't hurt.

This allows you to select a few maps that you do NOT want to play on for 1v1.
Some factions don't want to play certain maps, I'm sure. It's also hard for newer players to play certain maps or to learn all maps at once (though this won't help learning much, you need to go through all of them anyway.)

Especially with a gigantic map pool like ours, this would be a cool implementation that doesn't limit the game at all.
It could be two to three vetos in my opinion, depending on what you think is too restricting/imbalanced.

There's a lot of map of the different types (sea/land/air heavy), so it wouldn't be possible to vote out all maps of a certain type anyway, as long as you don't allow more than three vetos.

About Implementation:
It's not too hard, just include a window with checkboxes for the active maps.
When two players are matched against each other, remove the vetoed map from the random pool and random after that.
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Re: Why not: VETO for ladder maps

Postby Petricpwnz » 01 Aug 2013, 19:56

Im against it, ladder is the place where people compete with each other. All games are ranked and increasing the chances of getting maps you are good on is just lame. In this game the gameplay is very different from map to map and with all different factions. I have plenty of maps in ladder pool which i hate but nothing to deal with it, there are also maps i like.
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Re: Why not: VETO for ladder maps

Postby Mad`Mozart » 01 Aug 2013, 19:59

Read Sheppard's post, there is virtually nothing more to say on this. Dont have the balls to play - gtfo :roll: Noone's gonna take a map out only cause you dont know how to play it.
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Re: Why not: VETO for ladder maps

Postby rootbeer23 » 01 Aug 2013, 20:00

yes please.
the map pool is big enough to allow for veto.
no matter how i set my monitor, my eyes have problems with the glare on snow maps.
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