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So much bitterness in this world

Postby -_V_- » 27 Nov 2012, 05:26

Sorry guys. I happen to work and to live in a different timezone so I just found out about the bitterness club reunion :)
I know it's not the forum for that (sorry to the admin/mod) but it's a pair with the bunch of lies just below this post.

To be honest, it saddens me in the beginning then it just pisses me off to end up with a laugh, well sort of.

The following will be a lot of bla bla. So if you should read something, read this : instead of being consumed by hate and spreading hate and lies on the forum, come in game and break me in game, make me pay there. Trust me that would hurt me more than your words here.
You know where to find me. Always gonna be served better by yourself. It will be much more rewarding to you I think than "this", cause let's face it, a lot of this hate comes for the biggest part from the frustration of not being to take me down in game on your own! Or it's just a coincidence that 99% of people complaining here are incapable of beating me ?


I'm pretty sure this will be locked up because people can't behave (I can't either, so no harsh feeling), but seems a bit unfair to have some trash lying around for everyone to see when I couldn't write a single word.

- First of all I NEVER hid my identity since Zep made it very very clear that VM was not acceptable. You can go ahead and check if I am using tricks to fool the VM restriction (even though I know how to do it) ;) . I completely disagree with this vision but it's not my call so I just comply.

- I do respect the limitation that ZEP mentioned (and I asked him confirmation about that) of one account / comp. Oh BTW sometimes I need to create a new account because i DO travel a LOT. Dunno what you do with your money but I travel like 50% of the year. You will see japanese, australian, malaysia philippines, thailand flag in front of my accounts (Except the main one which stays in singapore because its my desktop comp). It will happen again and my name will change but you're more than free to check the name lists.
Settled or should I ask my boss to not ask me any international work to please Casimus ? Do you want me to transit to you my schedule ? I plan to go to thailand next week end and maybe play from there. Is that working for ya ?

- Add to the list the account MerlinTheWizz. One account I never used to play, one I was using in a VM, just to take a glance at the main chat from work :!:
Why VM ? Cause I work with mainly Apple stupid devices so I use mac. Using apple devices, this could be a valid reason for ban at least ;)


- Talking about fair play. Well that's just laughable. Try to catch me cheating, abusing our game "rules", catch me trying to mix, all this bs. 4 years of game replays, check for it and find a single one. I dare you! I've always tried to bring more fair play to this game. So on this, really zip it!

- This could sound paradoxal, but people have complained about teamkill. True I do. I can't bear an incompetent player talking shit to his team or a noobier teammate when the very guy doesn't know how to play. You wanna talk shit to some incompetent ? Fair enough, but first be sure to be decent yourself before opening it big. Just my sense of respect, you can disagree with it. I would do the same with my main account, but with the rating difference I just don't encounter the same type of players and their attitude so it simply doesn't happen.

- Killhard and Batman. I am truly , really truly sorry that I don't acknowledge personal loss when I didn't lose on my own. I guess I can work on that. Funny thing, yesterday I messed up and lost against silver_eye. Pretty sure I didn't deny it (again, game chat log) :P . But really, if you want so much to feel better about yourself I can seriously let you win. Would that work for you ? You could go and brag that you defeated the mighty(lol) V.
Just ridiculous. Don't think I ever denied of being BASHED by Dim or other good players. Not my fault if you don't belong to that class of players. Maybe you should practice more and get better and humiliate me in game. I can apologize if you want and makes you feel better , at least less bitter, but I won't ever see a personal loss when it was teamwork against me (or when I have to play for more than my sole position), which for the record is the reason why I never ask for help to win my side.

- Bad attitude (in game) / ego. Yep no denial. Guess what, makes you get better. I do not stand stupidity. As I always say, losing is one thing, being retarded that's beyond my comprehension. To be honnest I do have some moments where I am pissed off by IRL, but that's far from being the usual and we've all been there but that's a diff story.
Worst (best?) thing is that still at the end of the day when I made a mistake, I apologized. Happened yesterday again to the player Atom. I didn't talk shit about him, I assumed publicly he was not good but at least competent. I realized I was wrong and guess what, I said sorry to the guy. Dun remember my accusers of showing this type of "bad" attitude :roll:

- No fair play, just plain BS. Nothing pisses me off more in this game that the lack of fair play and players willing to cross any line to just not lose plain and square. Giving up when it's completely lost ? Yep. My time is worth something (and I guess others' time too), quite a lot, so no bothering. We talked about that. I have more respect for someone who gives up when the times comes than someone stretching out the game for selfish reason.

- Hosting games with offensive names ? hardly. Spreading homophobic, disgusting insults ? never. you can only accuse me of questioning/insulting the intelligence of some people, again when it comes to the game. To the one who never did, please throw me the first stone.

- I don't deny and never did when I was asked if I was Ichiban/V/Cyth. Never, period. I demand you to produce right here the proof of the contrary! Seriously even the list of names is there for everyone to see. To tell you the truth I had a few days ago someone saying that the name "HB_V" was not clear enough ... I mean come on ... lol

- When I don't play with my best rated account (which I use when I really do intent to win at any cost as long as it fits my idea of fair play), I don't care AT ALL about the teams as in it's my sole choice to have just fun without giving a shit. Yep I do get tired of some players attitude because of my rating. Just yesterday I played with my main account, and had to play with the 3 weakest players against more than decent players. Result : We got bashed. So to people who say I stack, well ... Add to that that my team lost every single game (6 or 7) since I'm back at playin'. Talk about stacking lol

- In yesterday game, I was in YOUR team Casimus until people asked me several times to switch. I NEVER, I repeat NEVER, claimed to be noob. Actually I didn't say a single word from beginning to the end, not in lobby, not in game. Can you make the difference between what you're assuming and the actual facts ?
I just executed what I was summoned to do. As I said, I don't give a shit about the balance in these games. Oh I just remember something. With this very same account I was rating 0, then -130 , then -236. Funny right ? didn't even tank it on purpose. My team just lost. That's what happens when people just play for fun, shit happens. Didn't even get mad as it was for fun.

- Casimus, I may have some temper and attitude but you're just a liar , I guess only to deepen the hole you're trying to dig me in. I NEVER, NEVER pretended to be noob on any game. Quite the opposite actually. I always get mad at people giving me "hints" when they can't play themselves. And I write in in the chat log for everyone to see. Not the best idea to hide IMHO lol.

- Several people, Lion, Ramak, to quote a few etc. already knew it was me. Another proof nothing was hidden. Dude I am using my own builds (VERY specific cause they dont look like any other except in mid spot that I stole from tnuk). So if I wanted to hide I would do other funky stuff.


- Casimus I think your opinion will be worth something when you stop to be a bitter whining person for any possible reason when you like to stack, you know liek the game you had with dim and white against other inferior players. When you will stop that, maybe I shall consider your opinion and grant you back respect :mrgreen: .
You might also want to consider that people may want to create other accounts to run away from players like yourself. Just sayin'

- Killhard, sorry buddy, I will let you win next time ok ? OR I can just focus on crushing you and not caring about helping my team, would that be ok ?
Stop crying and being so bitter. Root same for you buddy :) . I can even stop making fun of you tryin to play NR20 when its not NR20. Well no , that I can't sorry, too hard :oops:

- Last thing, when I judge the crowd to be not worth my biggest efforts, I just play while lyin' in bed, this not with my desktop computer obviously. If that is forbidden, then sorry , I didn't know :) .


There you go, don't think I have nothing more to say. I will try my best to not answer any further comment (lie?) from "some" people. You can start the trial, think I did my case.
I read this several times, probably I forgot stuff but well w/e. You can not like me (very understandable lol) or have no respect, but have the courtesy of *not* lying, all I'm asking.

PS : it's also ironic that several people who wants me banned today are people who improved a lot on their gaming thx to me (obviously exclusively but long time they admitted it). Ingratitude much ? :roll:
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Re: So much bitterness in this world

Postby Batmansrueckkehr » 27 Nov 2012, 09:51

it is not because of ur skill. we all know u are an excellent setons player. but your insulting and flaming and whining and arrogance is what we all "dislike".
i have played vs many "big" guys in the faf world on even other maps than setons. and even if the bash me or get bashed because of my strong team, the atmosphere was always friendly and nice. it was a game and fun after all. but you just play for your ego and u let all feel it. you have no respect for other players just for urself and ur "honor".
it hurts you that u couldnt even break killhard last game we played. he could hold u off 20 mins or more. his team got the upper hand and won - so? that's it. just a game. but you "no killhard u didnt win vs the almighty cyt, because that is impossible" or "i let you win next time maybe" blabla.. dude, that's not the point. it is not about bitterness or whatever - it is about open ur eyes. you love the "shit talk" too much it seems :D
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Re: So much bitterness in this world

Postby -_V_- » 27 Nov 2012, 12:17

Batman I have respect for you as a player, so I will reply.

but your insulting and flaming and whining and arrogance is what we all "dislike".

insulting and flaming ? If you're fair it's not that often. yeah it happens , but MY word is "retard". Of course it's not nice, but I use when it fits, even for *MYSELF*. There's actually very few people I would flame for no reason, very few. Even players who don't like me (the list is quite long lol) I won't flame them just for the sake of it. And after an argument, then moving on, next game. No biggie. I do draw a line between flaming and teasing (like when I tease root).

Again funny how you guys cry about "insults" when you are homophobic (among other things) all the time. I don't care that much, but to me it's much worse than criticizing the GAMING skills of one player. Just sayin' :mrgreen: . Double standard much ? Some things are "worse" to say than others ;)

whining ? OK, no argument. Who never did ? Sadly I can't control the world so I have to express my disapproval when it exists :P
arrogance ? same. No shame about that. Without it, I would still be average, satisfied in my mediocrity as many here. Sorry thats not part of my character.

the atmosphere was always friendly and nice

I don't recall entirely our last game together, but it was completely OK until killhard wanted so bad to make me admit I (personal level) lost to HIM. Then you started to tease me, which is alright, but that's about it. I don't remember insulting anyone or flame anyone :D. I even said, I would let killhard think he won over me if that would please him. For the record, this guy already beat me in the past, long time ago, but still. No harsh feeling.
But killhard is in the same kind of mind set than casimus now, which is sad cause I used to like him as a player when he used to play a lot of setons. To tell you the truth I actually looked up to him on the beach spot before. So you see before all the drama I had a lot of respect for him.

I do have an ego but I am capable of admitting losing just like yesterday when I lost to silver_eye. I messed up, I said it, I acknowledged the loss. I was pissed at myself, didn't insult my team at all even though they were quite bad and even if the game was super stacked against me. Our mid was really bad, our beach inexistent, still I DID NOT blame my personal mess up on the others, not even on the no mass. But again if you expect me to acknowledge failure when my opponent gets help, or something of the sort (like I have to support my team significantly), then sorry buddy, won't happen. And that's actually what really pissed off killhard. I'm cool with that.


it hurts you that u couldnt even break killhard last game we played. he could hold u off 20 mins or more. his team got the upper hand and won - so? that's it. just a game.

Dude seriously ? Have you even cared to watch the replay ? Point me where I actually try to seriously break killhard navy. You;re good enough of a player to know better. So please don't assume shit. Do you seriously think I would have failed at beating killhard ? Seriously ? Intention was to let him stay in his corner , literally, that's where he was stuck, and then help my team cause they needed it. Was it the wrong way ? Probably since we lost. I failed to help my team. That's it. Game. Next time I know I will just crush him and THEN help my team. There will be less drama.

Considering my temper, you would know when I really feel I lost.

but you "no killhard u didnt win vs the almighty cyt, because that is impossible" or "i let you win next time maybe"

You're putting words in my mouth, and even if I didn't say that , it was my mindset. And it still is. And this is what lightened killhard;s bla bla. He was just so frustrated that he started this with you. (Yeah I read the chat log after ;) ).
Anyway that's not the point really.

you love the "shit talk" too much it seems

That might be true, but i think it;s just funny most of the time. Sorry I had been the victim so much in my gaming career that i find it just funny now, and part of the "Action" :D. Other players say I play like shit or like a retard , it happens. So ? Im not gonna cry. They're often right.

You guys should take a step back and take things less seriously. We are not paying "pro" games , just games with mixes skills, so ...
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Re: So much bitterness in this world

Postby Casimus » 27 Nov 2012, 12:32

Firstly Kudos for having the balls to try to address the masses. I really can't be arsed to go through the lot but I get the jist of what you are saying. So I only have a few points in reply.

1) Coming into a lobby with a new account (6 games in this case), saying nothing, then the host puts you against another noob (because that's what he thinks you are) is deception. That game was You Uku & Suspect against me and 3 fairly new players, I knew it was stacked even without you but wanted to play as I like UKU and Suspect. So yeah I was a little annoyed about that. Bear in mind had we known it was you if you had played on my side it would have balanced things out, problem is I know you don't want a balanced game.

2) Interesting your travel plan, were you playing this game off 4G on a plane?? Seriously its very impressive how your flag changes just as we start whining. Again Kudos for playing this game on a plane.

3) This is not a personal assault on you, we were once very good friends if I am not mistaken. I am not one to hold grudges, life is to short for that, nor am I bitter. So I offer you 1 chance (should you want it, probably not) to prove that you can change. When I say change im not talking about the shit talking, some people like that, really its not for me. Stop the smurfing antics or at least make it known when the host is trying to balance who you are.

I have a suggestion, which I think would solve this little problem. Perhaps let Cyth port her Ichiban account, so that she can use it wherever. I'm sure she isn't the only one who travels I have seen other requests.
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Re: So much bitterness in this world

Postby Ramak » 27 Nov 2012, 13:08

i agree with Batman. i saw u game against me, other player, mu friend Zeronull.

You pleasure is not win the game. U pleasure is BASH PEOPLE who skill lower than u. And u tell really hurtful words after. Like : i can bash u all spots all factions. Russia surrender:P .

if you are a good player then you must respect the weaker if they did anything hurtful to you.

Just among them may be more talented than you, and may he be beat you after a something times and you will suffer from bullying him.

"come in game and break me in game, make me pay there".For me game is not a place for vendetta. its place for pleasure and relax. remember it.
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Re: So much bitterness in this world

Postby rootbeer23 » 27 Nov 2012, 13:50

-_V_- wrote:- In yesterday game, I was in YOUR team Casimus until people asked me several times to switch. I NEVER, I repeat NEVER, claimed to be noob. Actually I didn't say a single word from beginning to the end, not in lobby, not in game. Can you make the difference between what you're assuming and the actual facts ?


not saying anything is obviously very ineffective in such a situation.
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Re: So much bitterness in this world

Postby ThinkTank » 27 Nov 2012, 14:04

You want to ban V for all the wrong reasons. She admits to playing from a hotel network in Thailand for god sake!

I hope V will agree that I have the distinction of being the first person to ban her from my games years ago.
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Re: So much bitterness in this world

Postby killhard » 27 Nov 2012, 14:10

She admits playing from hotel ( LOL ) She , he whas playing under smurf account stacking up game vs casimus under the flag of senegal 5 minutes later it whas the flag of the philpinos !!!!!!!!

She tele hereself probebly to another country in 5 minutes yeah she can do that ^^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: So much bitterness in this world

Postby -_V_- » 27 Nov 2012, 14:16

3) This is not a personal assault on you, we were once very good friends if I am not mistaken. I am not one to hold grudges, life is to short for that, nor am I bitter. So I offer you 1 chance (should you want it, probably not) to prove that you can change. When I say change im not talking about the shit talking, some people like that, really its not for me. Stop the smurfing antics or at least make it known when the host is trying to balance who you are.


OK I had a lot of bla bla, but I erased it, pointless.

Bottom line.
I'm not holding grudge at all, not against you. The few players (I could count on one hand) I have a grudge against are players like csoller and his crew, that's pretty much it.
I ain't the hater kind of player or person. You don't like me ? Fair enough, leave me alone, I don't need your respect or appreciation (generally speaking).

You are interested in gaming with me, then be welcome. That's all.

@ The rest : ignore mod as i don't intend to contribute to your "Game" :)
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Re: So much bitterness in this world

Postby ThinkTank » 27 Nov 2012, 14:16

killhard wrote:She admits playing from hotel ( LOL ) She , he whas playing under smurf account stacking up game vs casimus under the flag of senegal 5 minutes later it whas the flag of the philpinos !!!!!!!!

She tele hereself probebly to another country in 5 minutes yeah she can do that ^^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If that is true, proxies lag badly unless she is spoofing.
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