The one pet peeve I have always had: T3 air

[CPTANT]

I think the implementation of T3 air is by far the weakest fundamental part of the game.

T3 air is practically invulnerable to everything that is not T3 air (with the exception of static T3 AA). Achieving T3 air superiority consists of spamming a single unit. (boring).
It leads to unbalanced strats where for example a single strat bomber just kills the enemy if he doesn't also have T3 air. Rushing T3 air is a no-brainer on any map larger than 15x15 or a sheltered air position.

It isn't a simple matter of rebalancing, it is a pretty fundamental flaw in the way the interactions are set up. It would have been a lot more interesting if there for example was a conceptual AA gunship (not the current restorer) that was superior in AA to ASF's, but slower. It would present an actual choice between mobillity and firepower.

[Endranii]

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On topic - Nobody want's AA gunship that's better than ASF. Go play steam to see how cancer it is.

[IceDreamer]

Bot's correct though. The Air rebalance from SC to FA is the weakest thing they did, and 10 years of incremental changes have barely dented the issue. It IS fundamentally flawed.

T3 Air needs to be significantly more vulnerable than it is. Not a bit. Significantly. Like, by a factor of 5.

[TheKoopa]

Lol

[CPTANT]

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On topic - Nobody want's AA gunship that's better than ASF. Go play steam to see how cancer it is.

You misunderstand, I meant an AA gunship without ground fire capability.

[keyser]

so more like an escort unit (AA gunship) and an interceptor unit (ASF).

how would that solve the initial statement ? : "T3 air is practically invulnerable to everything that is not T3 air (with the exception of static T3 AA)."

[IceDreamer]

It wouldn't xD I told everyone the only viable solution above. Not my fault it'll never happen.

[CPTANT]

It wouldn't xD I told everyone the only viable solution above. Not my fault it'll never happen.

It would because slow units are actually hit by things that are not T3 air.

[vongratz]

so more like an escort unit (AA gunship) and an interceptor unit (ASF).

how would that solve the initial statement ? : "T3 air is practically invulnerable to everything that is not T3 air (with the exception of static T3 AA)."

The concept of an escort fighter not is exotic.Since 1940 it exist.
Also, years ago, Ive done a Core plane for my Spring RTS TA-battlefleet mod with that characteristics.

[FtXCommando]

The problem with T3 air is that if you rush it and no one else is concerned with it, you auto win through strat abuse killing every t2 mex on the map or a gunship snipe on anyone doing some sort of rambo push. I don't really get how an "escort unit" is going to change anything about this?

I also don't see how any choice is created here lol.

I strat rush, kill 2 t2 mexes, have some asf escorting strat now. Dude makes slow af gunship that trails my strat and I uh, fly away and go back to kill other mexes out of range of the gunship? Great. If he didn't make gunship, then it's just the same ASF gameplay as before and nothing about how strong T3 air is has been changed.