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Heaven wrote:FtXCommando wrote:Imagine calling a role meaningless and then have one of your lists of demands involve the responsibility of that role.
i doubt anyone has taken the time to even define what the responsibilities of the m&m councilor are. if anyone had and what you said is part of his role, why did the the last one neglect this area completely?
Heaven wrote:i doubt anyone has taken the time to even define what the responsibilities of the m&m councilor are.
if anyone had and what you said is part of his role, why did the the last one neglect this area completely?
if you want to spice up the game with new stuff, add content or customization,
then unrank the maps in the third category, whatever. just can't have players of turtle maps get the same kind of rating they get in regular team games, because their skill isn't comparable.
Heaven wrote:roll back to july 2016 balance,i'd like to play again
Katharsas wrote:The unconstructive whining, bashing and generally condescending attitude of some people in this thread is absolutely disgusting. Do you even recognize how you come across?
Petricpwnz wrote:biass on his campaign to cleanse and remake every single map of FAF because he is an untolerating reincarnation of mapping hitler
QuestionMarkNoob wrote:Every game needs balance changes, which is the reason why almost every major competitive game gets balance changes. The playstyles of the players change constantly, and the balance has to be adapted to reflect that.
tatsu wrote:I also understand that things changing too fast can put people off.
tatsu wrote:I'm a big believer in "everything can always be improved, and always even more, and ect ect ect..."
Katharsas wrote:The unconstructive whining, bashing and generally condescending attitude of some people in this thread is absolutely disgusting. Do you even recognize how you come across?
Katharsas wrote:A lot of people have put tons of times into trying their best to create these roles AND define their responsibility, and there are always ongoing discussions on how to improve this stuff and just because you don't like the actions of single persons you devalue all of the work that has gone into trying to create a system that works better than dictatorship?
Dunstklinge wrote: Plenty of games get along just fine without or with very minimal balance patches.
Dunstklinge wrote: They have the added benefit that they dont shoo away their oldschool players by transforming the game beyond recognition, which gives them added stability.
Dunstklinge wrote: On the other hand, if you like a game, and it gets patched constantly, then there will be a point where you stop liking the game
Dunstklinge wrote: and then we end up in the situation where heaven is in right now.
QuestionMarkNoob wrote:Plenty of games have much fewer problems than FAF has.
Plenty of games are not evolving and slowly die.
Plenty of games lose their long-time player base because pressing balance issues are not patched.
QuestionMarkNoob wrote:And what about the old-school players which want the game to evolve? Do you just assume every old-school player wants the game to stay exactly how it is? And even if all of this was as bad as you want to make it, there is still the option of just playing bhedit. It is even ranked now, just fire up some games and see how it goes.
QuestionMarkNoob wrote:Good point. More patches = stop liking the game. I see absolutely nothing wrong with this argument!
QuestionMarkNoob wrote:Who is “we”? Heaven’s situation is basically being upset about balance changes while at the same time not giving any suggestions except “Throw out the balance team and roll back balance because um yea I don’t like it, and everyone clearly has the same opinion as I do!”
Heaven wrote:i doubt anyone has taken the time to even define what the responsibilities of the m&m councilor are. if anyone had and what you said is part of his role, why did the the last one neglect this area completely?
Heaven wrote:faf doesn't need balance changes, it was good at one point. never change a running business. if you want to spice up the game with new stuff, add content or customization, but don't change around balance for the sake of variety. it's gonna take forever till the bad changes from the last 1-2 years are rolled back, as doing it all in one sweep would actually require the balance team to publicly admit that they made the game boring, which is never gonna happen no matter how much the community complains
Heaven wrote:then unrank the maps in the third category, whatever. just can't have players of turtle maps get the same kind of rating they get in regular team games, because their skill isn't comparable.
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